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JoeBearcat

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Presently you can indicate what type and value of "tone" is required to open the squelch. It could be CSQ, CTCSS, DCS, NAC.... I'd like to be able to set a channel so the squelch opens if ANY tone (value) is received, but not a carrier only. The options would be for each specific "tone type" or all types. For example, don't open the squelch unless a NAC (of any value) is detected OR only open if one of the types (regardless of value) is detected.

Then I'd like to exclude "tone" values. For example, only open the squelch if this signal has a CTCSS tone and it's value is NOT 146.2.

Something like that has been on my radar for years (a more advanced tone scheme). -CSQ would be one of those.

But that is a major change and I don't expect it will be able to be added in current models.
 

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I'm a little confused reading that, do you mean digital and/or trunked FTO is possible via firmware update or would it require a whole new set of firmware?

Currently, there is no provision for adding a trunked system to an FTO slot. There is only the provision for a single frequency.
Adding a trunking system to a routine made for a single frequency would be a major change - just like adding trunking to a conventional-only scanner.
 

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Currently, there is no provision for adding a trunked system to an FTO slot. There is only the provision for a single frequency.
Adding a trunking system to a routine made for a single frequency would be a major change - just like adding trunking to a conventional-only scanner.
Okay, that's more understandable, we just run both P25 and we still have an analog patch for our pagers, but in my area, the analog isn't the best at my house so I try to run the analog FTO hit on my 996 then try to quickly switch to the trunked system quickly for the call details.
Thank you!
 

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If I had a contact there, maybe. Even if I did, they would wonder who I was and why I was asking.

I will reach out (--> have reached out) to Uniden America management to see if there is a back-channel.

Thanks Joe, I guess that's the best that can be done. Just out of interest, where is the hardware and software development done for the SDS and USDS products? Is it based in Japan, or the USA or elsewhere? If Uniden US needs a firmware update, do they have to contact Japan or is it done by the USA team? If the Australian Uniden support guys need a firmware fix, do they reach out to the US team or do they go to HQ in Japan?

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Thanks Joe, I guess that's the best that can be done. Just out of interest, where is the hardware and software development done for the SDS and USDS products? Is it based in Japan, or the USA or elsewhere? If Uniden US needs a firmware update, do they have to contact Japan or is it done by the USA team? If the Australian Uniden support guys need a firmware fix, do they reach out to the US team or do they go to HQ in Japan?

Cheers,
Matt

I think it's 100% done in Japan since I've never dealt with any engineers in the USA. Testing is done in the USA for those models. Much of the concept design is US-based for those models too. Generally the other markets use that R&D and impose their bandplan on it. At least I cannot recall any features that were in other markets first.

I'm pretty sure Uniden Australia contacts Japan directly. I say that based on never hearing about anyone in Australia internally. That's why I said management may not even have those contacts. I did reach out to USA management and asked if there were any they had.
 

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Would like the ability to push updates to the HP-based scanners in mass storage mode without having to unplug/plugin USB cables.
 

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Would like the ability to push updates to the HP-based scanners in mass storage mode without having to unplug/plugin USB cables.
I would rather have it use wifi like many TomTom GPS units. Only a power plug is connected to the unit. If the scanner battery is up to snuff, even that wouldn't be necessary.
 

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I would rather have it use wifi like many TomTom GPS units. Only a power plug is connected to the unit. If the scanner battery is up to snuff, even that wouldn't be necessary.

Assuming you are talking about future model design. On the list.
 

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Hello; as you can see we have a very vocal bunch of folks here at RR; my contact with you here is not so much of a product issue as something you had said much earlier.

You had mentioned that your TWiki would be getting redone at some point. By way of introduction, I was one of the user admins for the wiki on this site for many years. Our wiki has an extensive set of pages for Uniden scanners, even going back to some of your earliest models. You can take a look at these pages as a start...



We also have a very extensive glossary, viz.


Feel free to use anything you wish from here; a link makes things easy so as to minimize maintenance (no need to make the same changes on 2 different platforms). If you need something specific that you can't find, please shoot me a PM and I'll see if I can dig it up for you.

One thing you will need to do is a cleanup of sorts - Yahoo groups closed their doors back in December, so all the groups listed here are dead;


And of course that applies to any other Yahoo group on your Twiki site.

Mike
 

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Something like that has been on my radar for years (a more advanced tone scheme). -CSQ would be one of those.

But that is a major change and I don't expect it will be able to be added in current models.
Thanks. The good news is this only requires a firmware change. No hardware changes needed.
 

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Here's an interesting question - what is the 2nd unused USB port on the SDS200 intended for? It's been wondered about in the forums, but never explained... Mike
 

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I would love this feature as well. Local town uses a mixed mode Moto DMR repeater for the water tower and PD. They ID on carrier, send water level data with a PL 1xx.x, water department can talk to dispatch on a 2nd PL, and then PD uses DMR for their secondary conversations. Would be nice to require a PL / CC / NAC to kill off the carrier ID, lockout the water level data PL, but hear the other 2 all in one channel slot in the scan list to speed up scanning more.

Would also be nice when searching for new systems to require one of these modes, so that I don't hear the data bursts from outlying scada systems while searching for new trunked things around the oilpatch.

It would also be nice to receive Moto DMR basic encryption, and AES for any P25 / DMR frequency that we have the encryption key for.
I would also like to be able to track encrypted TG's on some systems, because conversation isn't everythere, sometimes TG's and UID's can tell you along about what's going on.


Presently you can indicate what type and value of "tone" is required to open the squelch. It could be CSQ, CTCSS, DCS, NAC.... I'd like to be able to set a channel so the squelch opens if ANY tone (value) is received, but not a carrier only. The options would be for each specific "tone type" or all types. For example, don't open the squelch unless a NAC (of any value) is detected OR only open if one of the types (regardless of value) is detected.

Then I'd like to exclude "tone" values. For example, only open the squelch if this signal has a CTCSS tone and it's value is NOT 146.2.
 

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I would love this feature as well. Local town uses a mixed mode Moto DMR repeater for the water tower and PD. They ID on carrier, send water level data with a PL 1xx.x, water department can talk to dispatch on a 2nd PL, and then PD uses DMR for their secondary conversations. Would be nice to require a PL / CC / NAC to kill off the carrier ID, lockout the water level data PL, but hear the other 2 all in one channel slot in the scan list to speed up scanning more.

Would also be nice when searching for new systems to require one of these modes, so that I don't hear the data bursts from outlying scada systems while searching for new trunked things around the oilpatch.

It would also be nice to receive Moto DMR basic encryption, and AES for any P25 / DMR frequency that we have the encryption key for.
I would also like to be able to track encrypted TG's on some systems, because conversation isn't everythere, sometimes TG's and UID's can tell you along about what's going on.
I don't think uniden will offer to RX any kind of Encryption.
 

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Here's an interesting question - what is the 2nd unused USB port on the SDS200 intended for? It's been wondered about in the forums, but never explained... Mike
It's connected to the DSP sub processor. As it has no connection to the main CPU It cannot be used for programming but it can control and read the sub processor. There's an example program on FaceBook when it is used to show a spectrum display of the small frequency range that the SDR receiver are sending to the DSP.

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