BCD436HP/BCD536HP: help with fire paging

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cino

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I thought there was a way to turn off fire paging but i cant find any post on it. most searches result in everything except turning them off.
is it possible to turn them off? and if so can someone point me to or provide instructions on a how to.

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You don't mention which model scanner you have, so the information is kind of generic.

If there is a "Scan" button, press it. For an x36 scanner it is Function+System.
 

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sorry i selected the model on the drop down menu i should have added it to the body also. it is the BCD436HP. can you elaborate on that a bit more
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Ah! - too obvious, just flat missed you had a 436. Sorry.

On the left side of the scanner, you have two buttons. The top on is the Function Button. On the front face, there is a row of three buttons: System, Dept/Site and Chan/Mod.

To resume scanning from Fire Tone Out, you would press the Function button and release it. Then immediately press the System button.

That should return your scanner to normal scanning.
 

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for my clarification and now I think i may be confused on what i even called it in my original post. I am not even sure i can do what i am requesting

when the EOC does a tone its super loud to notify first responders. I thought that was called paging is that correct?

What I want to do is disable that all together its sounds like what you describe I would have to catch the tone press a few buttons and return to normal scanning. I am not even sure i could catch the tone it happens pretty fast some times. but would that disable it forever? My original thought was I could just change something in sentential software or a setting on the scanner to just disable the tones.
 

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No something completely different. That alert tone is part of the dispatch process and you hear it during normal scanning. Nothing can be done to block out a tone that is part of a transmission.
 

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thank you.
i realized i was confused after reading your response and some other post on the forum
 

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Now that I'm in front of a computer, I can elaborate a little more than with an iPhone.

Different dispatch centers do different things, so it's hard to get specific.

In many places, they use tone and voice paging to alert responders to a call for service. Typically this is a set of tones, more often than not, a two tone sequence (though some places use a single tone). This tone group will activate pagers carried by responders. Immediately after the tones are broadcast, the dispatch center will state the nature of the emergency, location and any other relevant information for the agency.

Your scanner has a feature called "Fire Tone Out" which would allow the scanner to act just as a pager. The scanner is monitoring only the frequency for the dispatch channel and the audio opens only when the correct tone sequence is received.

What it sounds like is that you are scanning all traffic and are hearing the tones for paging.

As I noted previously, there is no setting other than avoiding (turning off) the channel that would disable the tones from being heard.
 

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thanks for taking the time to provide a detailed response. my 20yr old scanner i just MANUALLY entered the freq and that was about it. im still working on a steep learning curve
 

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I agree with the other responses that if the tones are part of the dispatch you cannot get rid of them. However, many years ago I bought a RS DSP speaker (no longer available) that had an unexpected property. At certain levels and bandwidths it treated the tones as noise and muted them while letting the voice through. The tones are still there, but at a lower level. I have not tried it with other DSP speakers, but it might work.
 

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I agree with the other responses that if the tones are part of the dispatch you cannot get rid of them. However, many years ago I bought a RS DSP speaker (no longer available) that had an unexpected property. At certain levels and bandwidths it treated the tones as noise and muted them while letting the voice through. The tones are still there, but at a lower level. I have not tried it with other DSP speakers, but it might work.


I really wish they could be muted or dropped a few decibels. I understand why they are so loud and the purpose I just wished i could tone them down
 

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You could try editing the "offending" channel and change the Volume Offset to a negative number (-1, -2 or -3). This will cause a lowering of the volume for that particular channel.

The downside is that everything on the frequency is lowered - both the tones and subsequent voice.

If nothing else, the alert tones are performing their intended function - getting the attention of the listener because something important is about to be said. But yeah, some of them can be pretty obnoxious.

A number of years ago, loud alert tones was the subject of discussion in the fire service. There was a line of thought that unexpected loud noises could be startling and leading to adrenalin surges which may be adverse to cardiac well being.

At the beginning of my fire service career, pagers going off did cause a rise in pulse rate. But almost 40 years later, I was lucky if they woke me up as I got so used to them.
 

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I have already used the -1 -2 on the eoc/fire and a +2 on my preferred channel. i found that to be a nice feature my old scanner didn't have.
 
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