Help with HT1250 Programming

[Bpd119]

Hello all new to the site. great site. I just got the cps for my portable and am completely new to it. i am starting to understand the different screens, any tips and tricks to it. also can i program a different tone when i key up the mic. instead of just the steady tone or the quick beep. also different tones for the mdc. any help or tips would be great. also is there any way to program an out of range frequency?

 

[C138NC]

just for the first part, are you talking about burst tones? like you would hear on the scanner when someone is done transmitting you would hear those burst tones? thats like data burst if im correct on the term, I dont think your radio will do a "courtesy" beep if you keyed up and that only happens with the repeaters i think. the only radios i know that would do that are either kenwoods for what i was told and the kiddy radios "FRS/GMRS".

now the MDC tones, depending on where you live and the fire/ems stations near you, you would need the frequency that will decode and activate your radios alert feature as if you were apart of a group that your being paged out if you understand that, like quickcall? im not familiar with the aspect of the HT1250, only used them, never really played with them and got all techi with it.

To be on the safe side, are you only programming in RX frequencies? Errrr out of range frequencies? im going to say nooo, is your HT VHF/UHF? Hi/Lo?

Welcome to radioreference and I hope someone else is able to answer more of your questions for you.

 

[CommJunkie]

You can't program a different tone for the MDC. It's either long beep, short beep, or both.

The MDC itself is pretty much one tone too, unless you play with the "preamble bit", which will drag it out and make it sound different. Some radio systems won't allow this though.

 

[kayn1n32008]

Hello all new to the site. great site. I just got the cps for my portable and am completely new to it. i am starting to understand the different screens, any tips and tricks to it. also can i program a different tone when i key up the mic. instead of just the steady tone or the quick beep. also different tones for the mdc. any help or tips would be great. also is there any way to program an out of range frequency?

What kind of different tone? is your radio a trunked version of the ht-1250? your not really clear on what tones you are talking about.

just for the first part, are you talking about burst tones? like you would hear on the scanner when someone is done transmitting you would hear those burst tones? thats like data burst if im correct on the term, I dont think your radio will do a "courtesy" beep if you keyed up and that only happens with the repeaters i think. the only radios i know that would do that are either kenwoods for what i was told and the kiddy radios "FRS/GMRS".

138kay did you read this before you posted it? more confusing than helpful

now the MDC tones, depending on where you live and the fire/ems stations near you, you would need the frequency that will decode and activate your radios alert feature as if you were apart of a group that your being paged out if you understand that, like quickcall? im not familiar with the aspect of the HT1250, only used them, never really played with them and got all techi with it.QUOTE]

138kay research your answer. MDC (MDC1200 Signalling) and quick call are two comepletly different signaling methods. now when it comes to MDC it is an AFSK (Audio Frequency-Shift Keying) data burst and not a 'frequency'

a MDC burst has actual information encoded in the data burst, 2 tone is just that, 2 tones in a sequence. the pager measueres the frequency of the tones and if it matches what is stored in the pager it goes off, there is no data encoded on a 2 tone page (aside from the sound of the 2 tones)


Bpd119, to properly anwser your question you need to provide more information as to what you are asking, can you describe better what tones you are talking about. thanks

 

[CommJunkie]

What kind of different tone? is your radio a trunked version of the ht-1250? your not really clear on what tones you are talking about.



138kay did you read this before you posted it? more confusing than helpful

now the MDC tones, depending on where you live and the fire/ems stations near you, you would need the frequency that will decode and activate your radios alert feature as if you were apart of a group that your being paged out if you understand that, like quickcall? im not familiar with the aspect of the HT1250, only used them, never really played with them and got all techi with it.QUOTE]

138kay research your answer. MDC (MDC1200 Signalling) and quick call are two comepletly different signaling methods. now when it comes to MDC it is an AFSK (Audio Frequency-Shift Keying) data burst and not a 'frequency'

a MDC burst has actual information encoded in the data burst, 2 tone is just that, 2 tones in a sequence. the pager measueres the frequency of the tones and if it matches what is stored in the pager it goes off, there is no data encoded on a 2 tone page (aside from the sound of the 2 tones)


Bpd119, to properly anwser your question you need to provide more information as to what you are asking, can you describe better what tones you are talking about. thanks

I think if you spent more time paying attention to the OP's question and less time concerned with bashing someone else's answer, you will see that his question about the MDC "tone when (he) keys up the mic" is answered.

Also, you can do MDC call alerts. It's called MDC call. One radio keys up and alerts another radio using the 4-digit code.

 

[firefive76]

I'm with Kayn1n, everytime I read something posted by C138, I go cross-eyed and get a headache.

 

[Bpd119]

hi

I was referring to the actual tone the radio makes when the mic is pressed which triggers the user to wait for the mdc to be sent. the state police have ht1000 and it sounds like a nextel beep while mine is just the long beep which is kinda annoying. i had the short beep for a while also but i wanted something like the ht1000 which is much cooler. also does anyone else know any cool tricks and tips with the radio. also anyone know any sites where i can get the input and output frequency. also its a vhf. anything anyone can tell me about the programming would be excellent.

 

[C138NC]

Thats something the radio is programmed with or comes with, yours is an HT1250, theirs is a HT1000 and I never knew an HT1000 had a "Nextel Beep" I would only think the XTS series would and maybe the Motorola Astro Saber, probably the one NYPD has because its pretty much an XTS3000 built into a Saber.

 

[CommJunkie]

The "Nextel Beep" is usually for trunked systems. Are you positive it was an HT1000? Could have been a DTMF tone also, but they get annoying after a while.

 

[kayn1n32008]

i dont think that the 'wait to talk' tones can be changes to something other than the long tone or the short one i remember the GP-300 and GM-300 had a lo-high (or hi-lo cant remember which) tone combo for the MDC 'wait to talk'.

which in/output frequencies are you looking for? have you checked the database here on RR? if it is not there try posting in the state forum for the state you are in.

commjunkie, yes i know that you can do paging with MDC, but as stated MDC is not quickcall and he was not asking about paging, i was trying to clear that difference up.

 

[clanusb]

I'm with Kayn1n, everytime I read something posted by C138, I go cross-eyed and get a headache.

i totally agree with the both of you. he needs to actually know what he is talking about before he posts just to make his post count go up another number. :eyeroll: **EDIT***look at his post directly below this one..and youll see what im talking about.

The "Nextel Beep" is usually for trunked systems. Are you positive it was an HT1000? Could have been a DTMF tone also, but they get annoying after a while.

There was a "hack" if you will that is able to be done on the HT1000, that will give you the "trunked version" of the Talk Permit Tone. there is an article on batlabs about it.

Batboard • View topic - HT1000 Talk Permit Tone on Conventional, IT CAN BE DONE!

 

[C138NC]

The "Nextel Beep" is usually for trunked systems. Are you positive it was an HT1000? Could have been a DTMF tone also, but they get annoying after a while.

especially if the mic is 5 inches from your ear... "beep beep" I highly doubt the HT1000 has the beep beep function, its just a bit old dont you think to have the "nextel" beep

 

[kayn1n32008]

i totally agree with the both of you. he needs to actually know what he is talking about before he posts just to make his post count go up another number.

I looked at his profile, i understand why now. he's a very young grasshopper, in time he will learn to use his eyes more than his fingers... no offence c138kay but clanusb is correct

There was a "hack" if you will that is able to be done on the HT1000, that will give you the "trunked version" of the Talk Permit Tone. there is an article on batlabs about it.

Batboard • View topic - HT1000 Talk Permit Tone on Conventional, IT CAN BE DONE!

i knew i saw a hack like that but i could not remember where i saw it... i wonder if you can use the trunk talk permit tone as the MDC wait to talk tone.

 

[clanusb]

I looked at his profile, i understand why now. he's a very young grasshopper, in time he will learn to use his eyes more than his fingers... no offence c138kay but clanusb is correct

im young too, however i dont talk when i dont know anything.


i knew i saw a hack like that but i could not remember where i saw it... i wonder if you can use the trunk talk permit tone as the MDC wait to talk tone.

as far as i know that trick is only able to be done on the HT1000. that youtube video of the xts5000's using that tone, was faked.

 

[Bpd119]

yea its deff a ht1000 and the state police are on a trunked 800 system maybe thats the reason.

 

[kayn1n32008]

yea its deff a ht1000 and the state police are on a trunked 800 system maybe thats the reason.

It is not a ht-1000, it is a conventional only radio. it might be an mts-2000 or other trunk capable jedi series handheld.

 

[siren134]

You can transmit tones on quick call and you can also set radio like a pager only to open channel to rx on tones. if you need more help pm me.

 

[smokeeater34]

thanks for the tips