Help with Morehead, Ky TGID

[EastKy606]

I just purchased a BCD996P2 and I purchased the NXDN key because thats what my local pd uses. I'm located in Morehead, KY. I programmed them in a conventional system. I pick up some intermittent state police traffic but I miss a lot of it. Back to the police department, everything the scanner picks up is so choppy you can't make out a single word. I have a yagi antenna mounted on my roof about 30 ft off the ground. I don't know if I have it programmed correctly, I wanted to try to program it on a nxdn one freq trunk but I don't know the TGID nor where or how to find it.

 

[ofd8001]

If you look at this page: Rowan County, Kentucky (KY) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference you'll note that the main dispatch frequency for Rowan County is encrypted (E). So the only two "clear" frequencies are probably used occasionally.

Then looking at this page: FCC Callsign WQBQ394 (MOREHEAD, CITY OF) you'll see there are three sites associated with the PD frequencies. While I do not know for sure, I suspect they may be simulcast. That means all three sites are transmitting at the same time.

The 996 line of scanners are lousy at decoding these multiple "barrages" of transmissions. They are either garbled or choppy as you describe. You can check your manual to see if there are P25 level adjustments and do some experimenting to see which is the better setting. But don't expect perfection. A Yagi antenna is supposed to help, but not cure, the issue.

If it was me, I would NOT program this as a One Frequency Trunk system, even though you could. This is shown as a conventional system. I've done this with KSP frequencies and found there is little to gain and the cost is a delay in reception. I think the scanner needs a millisecond or two to get decoding.

 

[sonm10]

If it was me, I would NOT program this as a One Frequency Trunk system, even though you could. This is shown as a conventional system. I've done this with KSP frequencies and found there is little to gain and the cost is a delay in reception. I think the scanner needs a millisecond or two to get decoding.

This is bad advice. One frequency trunk is exactly the way to program. I suspect you want to turn on ID Search. It should be under system options. But if encrypted won't matter anyways.

 

[ofd8001]

This is bad advice. One frequency trunk is exactly the way to program. I suspect you want to turn on ID Search. It should be under system options.

No, this is not "bad advice".

If you use ProScan, Radio Reference and even Sentinel to import the Rowan County/Morehead frequencies, you will note these three programs all create this as a conventional system and not OFT.

 

[EastKy606]

No, this is not "bad advice".

If you use ProScan, Radio Reference and even Sentinel to import the Rowan County/Morehead frequencies, you will note these three programs all create this as a conventional system and not OFT.

I did notice that because I used all three of those programs. YouTube and trial and error are a decent teacher. The one thing I'm having trouble with is finding/ figuring out TGID's.

 

[EastKy606]

If you look at this page: Rowan County, Kentucky (KY) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference you'll note that the main dispatch frequency for Rowan County is encrypted (E). So the only two "clear" frequencies are probably used occasionally.

Then looking at this page: FCC Callsign WQBQ394 (MOREHEAD, CITY OF) you'll see there are three sites associated with the PD frequencies. While I do not know for sure, I suspect they may be simulcast. That means all three sites are transmitting at the same time.

The 996 line of scanners are lousy at decoding these multiple "barrages" of transmissions. They are either garbled or choppy as you describe. You can check your manual to see if there are P25 level adjustments and do some experimenting to see which is the better setting. But don't expect perfection. A Yagi antenna is supposed to help, but not cure, the issue.

If it was me, I would NOT program this as a One Frequency Trunk system, even though you could. This is shown as a conventional system. I've done this with KSP frequencies and found there is little to gain and the cost is a delay in reception. I think the scanner needs a millisecond or two to get decoding.

I'm saving for an SDS100 or 200, in the meantime I'm learning what I can by trial and error. After some research I did find that the main dispatch for Rowan PD was in fact encrypted which is a bummer. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to possibly tweak things to be able to receive more of KSP Post 8 and Morehead FD transmissions. Any advice for that and I'm also having a hard time finding TGID's.

 

[buddrousa]

How far are you from Post 8 tower sites?

 

[ofd8001]

If you got your Morehead stuff in as a conventional system, then TGIDs are "not applicable". They are only for trunked systems. As such, they are not even listed in the database.

For KSP I'd program 460.0625 with a NAC of 181 (set when selecting digital audio type and P25NAC using ArcXT). That is Post 8B, the main dispatch channel for Morehead. You may also program 460.350 NAC 180 for Post 8A which is the alternate channel for Morehead. If they have a major event, such as a pursuit, they have non-involved units use the "A" channels. (You might hear the words "10-3 in effect on B".