Alright so I’ll admit it I fell for the trap and believed that the description saying they are gmrs radios meant just that 🤷♂️ Well they are not gmrs radios hence the quotation in the title….. so now I have a set of 4 radios that don’t talk to my other gmrs radios 😞 what to do well to start I set my gmrs radios to scan just in case and no luck so thankfully I have an sdr so plug that in and go looking well what do you know they are broadcasting on 70 centimetre ham band okay really not legal but while we’re at it we may as well dig deeper so the pitiful manual says that they are programable well online I go to find out how to do that basically no one knows I have chirp so I try some some common options like bf888 ect no luck moving on I’m like okay I won’t program them for now I’ll just try using them with my baofeng so program in the frequency check it on the sdr and we should be good to go well not so fast the baofeng receives them but when you tx on the bf the rx light on the ostazt comes on but no audio so find out that if I hold monitor it doesn’t need a pl code and just listens and sure enough now I can hear the baofeng through the ostazt my conclusion it needs a pl tone to rx so I try scanning for pl tones on my baofeng no luck so my big question is how do I find out what tone it needs when there is no way to tell on the radio no display and I can’t check from programming software any help with this issue would be much appreciated as well as any help with any of the other problems who knows maybe we can figure out how to program these that would be super as they are great radios have great range even with the stalk antenna nice audio quality and really good big battery. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions.