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Help with RPM2 Dongles

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What is the difference between the RPM2 Master and Distribution Dongles? Just getting started with Harris

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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What is the difference between the RPM2 Master and Distribution Dongles? Just getting started with Harris

Any help would be appreciated.

Master dongle allows you to create distribution dongles. They’re very tightly held.
 

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Apparently all dongles in Colorado can be hacked and therefore there is no market for Harris radios in Colorado per the CCNC (Consolidated Communications Network of Colorado). They will ONLY allow Kenwood, or Motorola. NO HARRIS or L3H hardware will be allowed.
 

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Apparently all dongles in Colorado can be hacked and therefore there is no market for Harris radios in Colorado per the CCNC (Consolidated Communications Network of Colorado). They will ONLY allow Kenwood, or Motorola. NO HARRIS or L3H hardware will be allowed.
Because we all know MSI has the most secure radio programming software of all the major players.

Whew! Typed that without spitting my mouthful of tea all over my keyboard. :p
 

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Apparently all dongles in Colorado can be hacked and therefore there is no market for Harris radios in Colorado per the CCNC (Consolidated Communications Network of Colorado). They will ONLY allow Kenwood, or Motorola. NO HARRIS or L3H hardware will be allowed.
Good thing it’s limited to CO and they can’t hack outside that state. Yup.

Sounds like the people at CCNC are a special kind of stupid. Or they’ve been paid off.
 

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A Harris AAC dongle gets its system authorization from its serial number back to Harris. A master dongle can be used to restrict the functions of a distribution dongle (RID range, TG range, etc).

The idea that Harris’ ACC is less secure than Motorola is laughable. As someone that manages a large fleet of radios from several vendors on a large public safety system I can assure you that I can “hack” and put any system that I want in a Motorola radio using the SYSKey tool that is all over the internet. I can’t do the same thing with a Harris radio. The ONLY way this was possible was pre-AAC using RPM10 or earlier and that is very old software that will not work on any current radio in production.
 

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A Harris AAC dongle gets its system authorization from its serial number back to Harris. A master dongle can be used to restrict the functions of a distribution dongle (RID range, TG range, etc).

The idea that Harris’ ACC is less secure than Motorola is laughable. As someone that manages a large fleet of radios from several vendors on a large public safety system I can assure you that I can “hack” and put any system that I want in a Motorola radio using the SYSKey tool that is all over the internet. I can’t do the same thing with a Harris radio. The ONLY way this was possible was pre-AAC using RPM10 or earlier and that is very old software that will not work on any current radio in production.
Can’t you do the same with the hacked version of RPM 14 that’s all over the internet also?
 

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Can’t you do the same with the hacked version of RPM 14 that’s all over the internet also?
Maybe? Either way RPM14 isn’t going to program any current production radio or radio with appropriate firmware that should be in use for this public safety / public service.
 

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Maybe? Either way RPM14 isn’t going to program any current production radio or radio with appropriate firmware that should be in use for this public safety / public service.
It's rumored that RPM2 is hacked and that programs the current production stuff which is in use with public safety. And no dongle is needed. So, what about this???
 

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It's rumored that RPM2 is hacked and that programs the current production stuff which is in use with public safety. And no dongle is needed. So, what about this???
If True, So much for "Super Secure" Harris. I always thought they were the most secure and "Unhackable" of them all.
 

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I can only say Harris is secure and limited by how securely system admins and site managers keep, store, and distribute the keys/dongles.
Like a password, if strong enough, only you know it, it is never divulged or written, it can be considered secure.
You divulge that password to 3 people, then 4 have access, any one of those 4 leak, you are no longer secure.
Those dongles are very limited, each one with a hard coded serial number. They can be stolen, copied, sold, but that is the compromise.
Then you have the security breach.
 
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Well, it's primarily a public safety product and not really in the same realm as the dedicated L3HARRIS's DoD/Government products.
 
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