Help With Trunking Software

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johnjesse

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I would like to know if it is possible to use some of the trunking software available on this website, im currently using unitrunker, to decode all the information necissary to program a trunking scanner. I am looking to use a trunking scanner to follow a trunked radio system at the university i attend. All i know about the system is that it is a motorola system using MTX radios and i think i may have found the control channel.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
 

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First question John - what university and where (city/county/state will do). The database here might already have that information. Did you look there? I would also check on your state's forum to see if someone has already dug up the information, but it hasn't reached the db yet, if it isn't there.

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The university is the university of saskatchewan in saskatoon, saskatchewan, canada, i tried to search the database but i was unable to find anything, however i was unsure of what i was doing so i may have searched incorrecly I will try again.
 

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There is nothing in the database and due to the fact that very few people from this province are on these forums i think im going to have to use the software to get all the information myself, Is this possible?
 

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Hi John;

Welcome to the quest.

Since there isn't any info in the database, you will have to determine the purpose of each talkgroup on your own. The program will log talkgroups but the only way to know the purpose is to listen in over a period of time to get each one labeled.

Here's a very effective system. Let Unitrunker map out the frequencies and talkgroup IDs. Program the info into your trunking radio to validate the data. Once verified - please submit the information to the RR DB to save other folks the hassle.

If your radio is portable - take it with you and leave it turned on (but not in class). Seriously, I watched my history professor eject a fellow student for wearing headphones during the lecture.

When you hear something noteworthy - eg. a clue as to the type of activity for a given group - write it down along with the group ID. Eventually you'll have enough information to come up with a descriptive name for that group. Once the group is ID'd, lock it out to focus on other group IDs - or leave it in if it is something worthwhile for listening.

Pay attention to the campus newspaper for upcoming events and announcements that may translate to increased traffic on some talkgroups or the sudden appearance of previously unseen talkgroups (such as a special events group).

Eventually you will reach a point where you've identified most of the active group IDs. That is where having a PC with recording software - or a program like IDTracker - becomes very useful. Rare, infrequently used groups are hard to ID because of their inactivity. Having the ability to record the calls for later playback greatly extends your reach.

Back to DB submissions - we've had folks submit unidentified talkgroups. Please don't do that. It isn't very useful - but having a meaningful description to go along with an ID is. As you accumulate new ID descriptions - or revise old ones - please submit them to the RR DB.

-rick
 

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Another tool to use is a logging/recording program, of course you have to have a scanner compatible with one. A lot of people use the Butel ARCxxx programs (for the Uniden built scanners model xxx), but I find that it is somewhat limiting in the ability to log and record only what you want, so I use IDTracker (freeware) for that purpose.
 

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When in doubt in a case like this go to Industry Canada's website
and search the TAFL database. Enter "University of Saskatchewan":

http://sd.ic.gc.ca/pls/eng_alpha/web_search.licensee_name_input

THe second record lists what appears to be an 850MHz trunked system:

853.2875
853.5375
853.7875
854.0375
854.2875
854.5375
854.7875
855.0375
855.2875
855.5375
855.7875

Also include 851.0000 but may not be part of the system so scan it
conventionally. Start by setting up the above as A Motorola Type II
system if you hear a control channel on one of the frequencies.

Dave
 
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