When I try and paste freqs into Win 92 (or any version for that matter) the program only pastes the first row and places into the wrong column. For instance it pastes the channels into the first column which is the description instead of the freq column. Does anyone know why?
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Whew, this brings back memories. First, I am moving this to the software support forum.gs_new said:
I know that copy/paste works in Win92, I used to do it all the time. I just looked but the discussion that took place on this very topic years ago is long gone into the bit-bucket. I looked for a copy of the pertinent parts of the discussion (which I copied to my HD back then) but I am on a new computer and not every document got migrated to it.
Maybe Don will chime in, and assuming you are copying from something like Excel, I think that you have to have the correct format for each column setup and that you must have something in each column required in Win92 or the copy process will stop on the first row. In regard to that remember there should be 8 columns. Also, I think but am not sure, that the frequency columns and PL/DPL columns have to be formatted as numbers with the appropriate number of decimal places (5 and 1).
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
As Lou stated, format the spreadsheet (excel in my case).
The above 4 samples were copied as follows:
1. Directly from a line on a Win92 file.
2. Directly from a line on a Win92 file then pasted into excel then formatted the freq to number with 4 decimal.
3. Same as in 2 but the freq was left to 155.4 in excel then copied and paste into Win92. Note, the unformatted freq did not paste.
4. Same as 1 but copied to excel first then copied to Win92 after reformatting the freq. Note, the absence of the D under delay in this instance.
One additional note on alpha tags...do not try to paste a tag which has more then 12 characters into either the freq tag or ID tag.
The ID number must meet the criteria for the type trunking system selected, and if EDACS or Mot type 1, must meet the AFS criteria if selected. In type IIi Mot, the correct fleetmqp must be set also.
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freq tag freq RX Mode PL/DPL Delay
1. Bedford Co 855.23750 EDACS 0.0
2. Obici 155.40000 PL 110.9 D
3. Obici 29.00000 PL 155.4
4. Obici 155.40000 PL 110.9The above 4 samples were copied as follows:
1. Directly from a line on a Win92 file.
2. Directly from a line on a Win92 file then pasted into excel then formatted the freq to number with 4 decimal.
3. Same as in 2 but the freq was left to 155.4 in excel then copied and paste into Win92. Note, the unformatted freq did not paste.
4. Same as 1 but copied to excel first then copied to Win92 after reformatting the freq. Note, the absence of the D under delay in this instance.
One additional note on alpha tags...do not try to paste a tag which has more then 12 characters into either the freq tag or ID tag.
The ID number must meet the criteria for the type trunking system selected, and if EDACS or Mot type 1, must meet the AFS criteria if selected. In type IIi Mot, the correct fleetmqp must be set also.
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
Additional note on Alpha Tags
If any tag in the column has more then 12 charactors, it will trunkcate to the 1st 12.
If any tag in the column has more then 12 charactors, it will trunkcate to the 1st 12.
Ok and what about the talk groups? They only have 3 columns and I already have copied and pasted out of the RR database into Excel and am now trying to import/copy and paste them into Win 92. I can highlight the columns in excel but when I go to paste them into Win 92 and highlight the columns I want to put them into.......it will not paste them?
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In order for paste to work (correctly), the fields you are copying must match the fields you are pasting into. Also, if you are copying TalkGroups in HEX format, make sure you have HEX selected in WIN92. If you are copying TalkGroups in DEC format, make sure you have DEC selected in WIN92.
I don't think the formatting on RR matches WIN92, and that's why they won't paste. I have never used that method, I always entered into the WINxx programs by hand (or cut from a WORD document I maintain). Try cutting from Excel and pasting into a TEXT file. Do you get "Alpha Tag" TGID?
EDITED ......
In order for paste to work (correctly), the fields you are copying must match the fields you are pasting into. Also, if you are copying TalkGroups in HEX format, make sure you have HEX selected in WIN92. If you are copying TalkGroups in DEC format, make sure you have DEC selected in WIN92.
Don't highlight the lockout column in WIN92.Gadgetmann said:
I don't think the formatting on RR matches WIN92, and that's why they won't paste. I have never used that method, I always entered into the WINxx programs by hand (or cut from a WORD document I maintain). Try cutting from Excel and pasting into a TEXT file. Do you get "Alpha Tag" TGID?
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Ok, I will try it from Word and/or a Text file. Not sure what you mean by "do you get Alpha Tag TGID"? I have the scanner working on an EDACS but after every transmission I get the 5 EDACS beeps so it sounds like the scanner is not using or functioning correctly on the end detect tone.
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
In Win92 insure all EDACS frequencies are set to EDACS from FM. Also insure system type pulldown reflects EDACS.
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
Excel works fine if frequencies/TGID's are correctly formatted and bank type is set correctly. Also, EDACS AFS needs to be set prior to paste if that is the format in excel. Insure correct LCN for EDACS.
Even if tags are on the wrong side for talkgroups or frequencies, they will copy/paste if numeric data is formatted correctly.
If Columns A through D are set correctly in excel all four can copy/paste into Win92. Then use E and F for talkgroup data for another copy/paste operation.
Yup, all that is set up correctly.
Ok, I will mess with it some more and do some testing.......or I might just throw in the towel and get a newer scanner I can import the info from RR...thanks again.
PRO-92 and WIN92
Cutting and pasting is supposed to work across different applications. It sounds like you have been successful in getting the data into the Excel spreadsheet. Next, select the columns in the spreadsheet as others have indicated. Highlight and copy one or more lines of data. Apparently when you paste that into WIN92 it does not work (correctly). So what happens when you paste it into a TEXT file? Do you see the alpha tags and TG IDs? Is the info correct? If so that would tend to narrow down the problem as being your WIN92 settings.
Make sure you have ALL of the EDACS frequencies for the system programmed. Make sure each is set to ED. Make sure none of them are locked out. Make sure the ATTenuator is not on for any of them. Make sure they are programmed into the correct (logical) channel numbers (LCNs).
In other words, make sure that LCN 1 is in slot XX1 of the bank and LCN 5 is in slot XX5 of the bank. Do not just put them in staring with the first one and moving along.
My 92 does this also and I have tried numerous ways to fix it, but never can. I believe its characteristic of these scanners, which are pretty wonky anyway. I have one that subtracts 16 from the motorola talkgroup number for no good reason............
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
Well guys, Other then the CC, I just now changed my EDACS voice frequencies to FM which duplicated the 5 beep issue. Prior to trunking scanners, I programmed all local EDACS VC's in a conventional 800 MHz scanner and got the same 5 beeps at end of coms.
From Win92 prior to change.
Why Mot id's are down 16 is beyond me. I can locally scan 5 smartnets and have taken many trips with Pro-92 V1 between 1999 and 2004 scanning many smartnets. In all these systems id's were correct. When 2067 came out, it also scanned the same way both ED and MO.
From Win92 prior to change.
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HAMPTON 854.71250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 854.96250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 855.46250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 855.71250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 855.96250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 856.76250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 857.76250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 858.76250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 859.76250 EDACS 0.0
HAMPTON 860.76250 EDACS 0.0Why Mot id's are down 16 is beyond me. I can locally scan 5 smartnets and have taken many trips with Pro-92 V1 between 1999 and 2004 scanning many smartnets. In all these systems id's were correct. When 2067 came out, it also scanned the same way both ED and MO.
The insane thing about the Motorola TGIDs being 16 down is say, you program ID 2336 in and alpha tag it, then close that bank the TG is in (meaning it should not pick up any TGs other than those programmed in) and the ID shows up in the display as 2320 with no alpha tag. Like I said these scanners are pretty wonky, maybe they should be labeled "For Amusement Purposes Only" and not real scanners LOL. This is with the original 92 version with no A or B.
Hmm, are you sure you have the fleetmap set to all Type II settings? What you describe here can be a symptom of Type II ID's being displayed on a block improperly set for a Type I type setting.
Good thought........I checked and the Fleet Maps are set to Type II in the Win92 software. The scanner itself identifies S-00 in each of the 7 entries so its set properly. Perhaps I should schedule another appointment with my therapist for this scanner.
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