Hiding a scanner on public property

[ShyFlyer]

Yea you are.

No, I am not.

 

[mmckenna]

Well, jeeze, now that it seems he's serious, I want to know more.
I hope PB posts some photos and details about how he pulls this off.

Maybe radioreference needs a profile badge for accomplishments like this.

Good luck to you!

 

[lucky43113]

Well, jeeze, now that it seems he's serious, I want to know more.
I hope PB posts some photos and details about how he pulls this off.

Maybe radioreference needs a profile badge for accomplishments like this.

Good luck to you!

i like that idea a badge system most interesting way to find a frequency, nicest radio room,best scanner hack etc..

 

[mmckenna]

Yeah, maybe we should all get to vote on the "best catch of the year", or "most unique" or something.

But seriously, I really hope PB_Lonny pulls this off. At first I was skeptical, but since he's stuck with it, I want to see him follow it through and pull it off. It's a challenge, that's for sure, but thats how the real stuff happens. He'll have to put some considerable work and risk into it, but it's entirely possible he'll pull it off. I'd really hope he follows up with a good debrief of how he does it.


As for how to hide it, there's been some really good suggestions. A search through the Geocaching.com site might be in order, as those guys are masters of hiding stuff in plain view.

 

[lucky43113]

Yeah, maybe we should all get to vote on the "best catch of the year", or "most unique" or something.

But seriously, I really hope PB_Lonny pulls this off. At first I was skeptical, but since he's stuck with it, I want to see him follow it through and pull it off. It's a challenge, that's for sure, but thats how the real stuff happens. He'll have to put some considerable work and risk into it, but it's entirely possible he'll pull it off. I'd really hope he follows up with a good debrief of how he does it.


As for how to hide it, there's been some really good suggestions. A search through the Geocaching.com site might be in order, as those guys are masters of hiding stuff in plain view.

i agree maybe the mods could narrow the list down in each category and let us vote on the winner from there top 5 selection that would be fun...and good luck OP keep us posted

 

[pb_lonny]

Thanks for the support.
I have been playing around in the shed with setting up a suitable case, once I have that worked out I will start on working out a plan to get in to place.

 

[lucky43113]

Thanks for the support.
I have been playing around in the shed with setting up a suitable case, once I have that worked out I will start on working out a plan to get in to place.

i may have missed it but what type of scanner will you be using and will you just use the close call feature so it will save what ever it picks up?

 

[Cognomen]

A trick we've used in the olden days is just knock on the door (or window if you're at their truck), tell them you're trying to find the source of some interference, and can we quickly check your radio to eliminate it as a possible source (pointing to their handheld or truck radio). Typically we get a "no problem" response. We then went through each ch in their radio and snagged the freqs with an Optoelectronics freq counter.

 

[ecps92]

Yup, kind of reminds me of Searching out those little unlicensed (LE can use anything under 2-5 watts, anywhere, anytime, as long as they don't interfere) or even the Sneaky Radio Shop putting the SECRET channel on 154.6050 (yes, we know it should be 154.6000), but then with Crystals and/or few PLL Scanners out there, who would ever find them.

Yeah, maybe we should all get to vote on the "best catch of the year", or "most unique" or something.

But seriously, I really hope PB_Lonny pulls this off. At first I was skeptical, but since he's stuck with it, I want to see him follow it through and pull it off. It's a challenge, that's for sure, but thats how the real stuff happens. He'll have to put some considerable work and risk into it, but it's entirely possible he'll pull it off. I'd really hope he follows up with a good debrief of how he does it.


As for how to hide it, there's been some really good suggestions. A search through the Geocaching.com site might be in order, as those guys are masters of hiding stuff in plain view.

 

[pb_lonny]

i may have missed it but what type of scanner will you be using and will you just use the close call feature so it will save what ever it picks up?

I will be using a UBC126AT and UBC72XLT.

I have found a suitable case and am setting it up at the moment.

 

[pb_lonny]

A trick we've used in the olden days is just knock on the door (or window if you're at their truck), tell them you're trying to find the source of some interference, and can we quickly check your radio to eliminate it as a possible source (pointing to their handheld or truck radio). Typically we get a "no problem" response. We then went through each ch in their radio and snagged the freqs with an Optoelectronics freq counter.

Great idea and something I will keep as a fall back if I need to.

 

[RayAir]

A trick we've used in the olden days is just knock on the door (or window if you're at their truck), tell them you're trying to find the source of some interference, and can we quickly check your radio to eliminate it as a possible source (pointing to their handheld or truck radio). Typically we get a "no problem" response. We then went through each ch in their radio and snagged the freqs with an Optoelectronics freq counter.

LOL, never used that but in the days before caller ID just using an old and proven "getting information by false pretenses" trick was to call the target up and tell them you're (use some common name) from the FCC (or other regulatory agency) and that you're verifying your records then ask for call sign and frequency.

Sort of a mild social engineering tactic , but not recommended today.

 

[pinballwiz86]

Good to hear of other people who do this sort of thing, hunting down frequencies and spectrum usage.

This is my main draw to this hobby! It's like treasure hunting, to find unknown frequencies!!! (I keep most to myself, but I throw a few crumbs to RadioReference once in a while. I can't give it all away. )

 

[pb_lonny]

This is my main draw to this hobby! It's like treasure hunting, to find unknown frequencies!!! (I keep most to myself, but I throw a few crumbs to RadioReference once in a while. I can't give it all away. )

It is for me too.

I share "99%" of what I hear on my blog but I do have a couple of frequencies which I don't publish, if you "read between the lines" of the below from my blog, you will understand why

"Finally, a note of caution. Not every user of two-way radios are happy about the fact that their transmissions can be heard and linked back to them. Twice, I have been contacted by business two-way radio users, who have asked that their frequencies remain “confidential”, due to the nature of what they are doing. In both cases, these companies had taken a number of steps to avoid linking their transmissions to their business name; however, my detective work allowed me to match the transmissions to a business - (and some people will see the irony of a business, who has tried to hide who they are, contacting me; by doing so, they just confirms who they are). I also am very cautious about sharing any details related to a number of government frequencies, including those used by agencies involved in tactical law enforcement, at a state or national level. While these frequencies use a variety of secure encryption methods, the mere existence of a transmission on one of their frequencies - even if the content is encrypted - can be a guide that something is happening. It is especially important when using “close call” and this information should not be shared."

 

[Delta33]

Thanks for the support.
I have been playing around in the shed with setting up a suitable case, once I have that worked out I will start on working out a plan to get in to place.

HOW are you going to feel when that radio comes up MISSING after you hide it ?? Kinda Dumb I hope...

 

[pb_lonny]

Well this now has a conclusion Frequency has been located using the "hiding in plain sight method"

VKPC7PB: Taking Frequency Hunting to an Extreme Level

 

[mmckenna]

Well this now has a conclusion Frequency has been located using the "hiding in plain sight method"

VKPC7PB: Taking Frequency Hunting to an Extreme Level

Nice.

My grandfather, many years ago, was really interested in trains. They were getting ready to build a new trolly system in the city where he lived.
He wanted to see more of what was going on, but it wasn't easy to get close. Being a retired engineer and having gone into acting after he retired, he figured out the solution.
He borrowed a hard hat. He had a clip board and a stop watch.
he walked into the place where they were doing final assembly of the trolly cars with his hard had, clip board and stop watch and no one bugged him. When someone started to look his way, he pick up the stop watch, look at them, click the stop watch and start writing stuff down.
Everyone seemed to think he was some sort of workplace efficiency guy that everyone avoided him.

He hung around for a while, asked a few questions, even took a few photos and then went on his way.

This was back in the 1980's before every one was so scared about terrorists and security. Probably wouldn't get away with it now, but wouldn't surprise me if you could.

Good catch, thanks for the write up.
You can get away with a lot in a truck with flashing lights a few "witches hats".

 

[ecps92]

Nice Work

Well this now has a conclusion Frequency has been located using the "hiding in plain sight method"

VKPC7PB: Taking Frequency Hunting to an Extreme Level

 

[Hans13]

Well this now has a conclusion Frequency has been located using the "hiding in plain sight method"

VKPC7PB: Taking Frequency Hunting to an Extreme Level

Well done. Clandestine work in plain sight is old school. It has been around forever because it works.

 

[mmckenna]

yep, sometimes walking in like you own the joint works well. Amazing how many times it works.