Hilton Head Island

[Matthew]

I'm on vacation in Hilton Head again this year and I want to update a few things as well as confirm some things.

First, I submitted three new frequencies for the T-B Comm, Inc system. I tried the frequencies listed in the database and I was getting nothing, so I went on a search and with the help of the FCC ULS I found the system had three frequencies not listed. I added them to my scanner and it was like turning on a light switch!

Secondly I would like to know if anyone has any thoughts on the fleetmap listed for the above system in the database. So far it looks good but If I recall there may have been some doubt.

Finally what is the consensus with regards to the fleetmap for Bigbie Electronics? Part of me thinks it may now be a type IIi system. What does everyone else think?

Matthew

 

[LarrySC]

When in doubt about a type I fleet map, try the #8 first. This is a broad band map and allows for the largest number of users. If an ID seems to combined with some other service then check to see which BLOCK it is in and change that block ONLY to a type II default. Good Luck, Larry

 

[brian]

Matthew -

Thanks for the submission. If you can identify which frequencies are the active control channel frequencies for the system while you are there, that would also be helpful. He don't have any confirmed control channels at this time.

I can't help you with the fleetmap, but I can say that what's listed is likely not correct.

Try them as Type II and see what happens. They both might have converted to Type II by now.

If you have trunker or some other decoder available, post the log files - that would help a lot.

Brian

PS - I'm jealous you're vacationing at HHI.

 

[Matthew]

Sure.............so far I have 855.8875 and 857.5125 as control channels.

Not a problem on the fleetmaps. I just figured someone may have the correct fleetmap and save me some work but no worries....its fun to figure out. I was just trying to maintain my laziness while on vacation.

And Brian.......Sea Pines is wonderful right now!

Matthew

 

[brian]

Alright, I updated the frequencies for both the TB-Comm system and the Bigbie Electronics system. Thanks for submitting that information.

I'm hoping that I can arrange a 10-year anniversary trip with my wife to Sea Pines this fall. If anyone has any good leads on a villa in Sea Pines, PM me.

Brian

 

[Matthew]

After looking at the fleetmap for the T-B Comm system, I am reasonably confident that the one listed in the database is correct. It seems to fit pretty well from I can see. I have a list of Type I and II talkgroups to submit once I spend some more time monitoring the system.

As for the Bigbie Electronic system it will be a challenge. One, I am not receiving the system nearly as well as I did last year and I am staying about four houses away from the place I stayed last year......go figure?!?!?! Two, the system is nowhere near as busy as it was last year. I have not heard one peep of anything related to Daufuskie Island and last year they were a major user of the system in my opinion.

Matthew

PS -- Brian check your PM reference a lead on a villa!

 

[kf4lhp]

T&B Comm Trunk System Frequencies

First, I submitted three new frequencies for the T-B Comm, Inc system. I tried the frequencies listed in the database and I was getting nothing, so I went on a search and with the help of the FCC ULS I found the system had three frequencies not listed. I added them to my scanner and it was like turning on a light switch!

I was on HHI last summer on vacation, and submitted some of that information. There's an older thread on the forum somewhere. I've been keeping up with the happenings on HHI; planning to go back in the next few years sometime.

From what I've seen on the FCC database, it appears that they have been changing frequencies on several of these business trunk systems. My assumption is that it is part of the rebanding process for Nextel.

 

[brian]

You know, I thought the same thing, that it was part of rebanding Phase I, clearing the 851-854MHz range. We've seen the same thing with SMRs in the Grand Strand area.

I don't think that's the case here, since neither of these systems had freqs in that range. It appears they've just added freqs.

But good information to have, nonetheless.

 

[Matthew]

This is what I have been able to identify for the T-B Comm system:

Currently listed in database & confirmed:
000-01 -- Express Restaurant Delivery
100-00 -- Port Royal Security
100-04 -- Sea Pines Security

New additions for the database:
001-01 -- Maintenance service
001-04 -- Bike rental service
100-05 -- Sea Pines Security (Possibly gate posts or posts at the beach entrances)
102-04 -- Unknown plantation/resort security
103-01 -- Tour Coordinations (Possibly for scheduling tours at a new housing site)
57360 -- Unknown plantation/resort security
57424 -- Long Cove Security (Maybe Shelter Cove Security - hard to determine)
57456 -- Golf course grounds/maintenance crews
57600 -- Pool service

Unidentified and not submitted to the database:
001-02
101-00
57392

 

[Matthew]

As for the Bigbie Electronics system, I had an extremely difficult time with receiving the system from southern Sea Pines as well as with figuring anything out because there was very little radio traffic.

I can say with some degree of certainty that I believe it to now be a Type IIi system. As for the fleetmap, all I have been able to determine is that Block 2 is Type I and I believe that the size code is S2, and Block 7 is Type II. I do have some talkgroups but not much.....:

209-01 -- Maintenance/pest control service ???
57616 -- Moss Creek Security ???
57648 -- Unknown plantation/resort security ???

This system requires further monitoring before posting anything to the database. There was simply not enough radio traffic to confirm anything. The little bit that I listed above is only definite educated guesses.

Matthew

 

[bpalmer]

I may be the closest to the Hilton Head site, but the two Hilton Head systems are incredably boring and light traffic that I pretty much gave up on the after a number of tries. I believe the fleet map on the database was accurate.

Between the two systems, traffic that I have listen too includes some plantation security, some Dafuskie Island hotel and golf management, a county wide exterminating company that has a bunch of usless traffic and a few I never could figure out. I may have an excel sheet on this. Brian, if I can find it I will send it to you if I haven't already, please let me know. It is not exciting and I now have to add new freqs to may scanner.

The talkgroups listed are compatable with my spreadsheet. I believe Shipyard Plantation security is 102-04 ( that took a lot of work and research)

I guess this means I need to try mointoring the systems again. I live in Beaufort and I can hear the two systems from time to time only a ten or fifteen mile hop. The third system located I believeNextel in Bluffton. just off island, has never, in my listening attempts, ever had any voice traffic, athough being Nextel.......digital.

THe TB and Bigbie are owned by the same person and he owns Savannah Communications the Motorola people in this area

 

[bpalmer]

Control Channels
I just found 858.0125 which is most likely T-B Comms as it is a listed frequency for them.

I also heard Bigbie on its listed CC of 857.5625.

I heard up to four others that I cannot confirm where they belong.

Nothing I heard belongs to Palmetto 800, Beaufort County or the above, assuming I wrote the freqs correctly, they are not in the FCC database at this time. More work.

 

[MikeMike]

Any BCD396T Users have ARC396 files to share?

I am headed to the Bluffton/HHI area this weekend for a 2 week stay in one of the communities off 278. Anyone have a ARC396 file that they can share? I'll be more than happy to reciprocate with any of my Connecticut files if someone is headed to the NYC/New England area anytime in the future.

Feel free to PM or email directly at mikolay (at) earthlink (dot) com.


Thanks in advance!

-MikeMike

 

[brian]

Billy -

Post the other Control Channel frequencies you monitored.

Brian

 

[bpalmer]

Brian
This is what I got so far....

857.5625 sys 7E32 For the last 3 days only CC I have heard on this sys
857.5125 sys 7516
858.0125 same sys I believe
855.8875 same sys I believe


misc have not researched. Quick check of area systems turned up nothing from Savannah to Charleston, but it was a quick check and I am not ruling out a poor sqeulch setting.

857.5725
856.8625
857.935

 

[Matthew]

Here is my yearly resurrection of this thread.......

So I am in Sea Pines on vacation this week this week and I have done some more monitoring both the Bigbie and T-B Comm systems.

Bigbie Notes:
-Note much to report except for below. Both will be submitted to database.
209-01 -- Unknown pest control
700-00 -- Use should be changed to an unknown plantation/golf course security

T-B Comm Notes:
-I was able to do some good work here. At least I think so......
001-00 -- Unknown
001-01 -- Maintenance primarily around Ocean Dunes area
001-02 -- Unknown HVAC company
101-00 -- Possibly Sea Pines maintenance or some landscape company
102-04 -- Shipyard security

I was also able to narrow down a talkgroup to either Rose Hill or Belfair security, but I failed to write down the talkgroup ID as well as the system it was on. I know that doesn't help much and I couold kick myself for such a mistake but I am doing my best to track it down.

Matthew