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Looks like they changed their system.

Until I can get unitrunker to detect the sdr properly since it has 2 built in receivers in it (Jade helm sdr RTL2832U model R820T). Seems unitrunker sees it but cannot determine there is 2 devices on it.

this is what I've found with the 436hp. Not in proper order just what I've been able to find. 386.2000 seems to be primary control channel.

385.350 386.2000c 386.4375 387.9625 387.475 386.650 387.6875 385.7875 387.275 387.6875

Nac300
 
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William2910 said:
Looks like they changed their system.

Until I can get unitrunker to detect the sdr properly since it has 2 built in receivers in it (Jade helm sdr RTL2832U model R820T). Seems unitrunker sees it but cannot determine there is 2 devices on it.

this is what I've found with the 436hp. Not in proper order just what I've been able to find. 386.2000 seems to be primary control channel.

385.350 386.2000c 386.4375 387.9625 387.475 386.650 387.6875 385.7875 387.275 387.6875

Nac300
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Nac 3D0
Nac 300
 
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I have been monitoring Fort Bliss White Sands for a while and their P25 system is on 406-410.00 Mhz.

I am wondering why I am picking them up on search in the 380 band? With strange new talk groups too.
385.025 p25 nac 006h DATA
385.0375 p25 nac 007h data
385.4 p25 nac 006h
393.475 p25 nac 8c7h sys ID 1h
386.5625 p25 nac 006H sys id 31H
385.3125 p25 nac 007h hey voice! E
385.3125 p25 nac 007h 31258 plus E too
386.0500 p25 NAC 006h TG 30505 sounds like PD tho..
TGs: 31073 30500 30728 30700 Range ops!!!!!
30700 30500 MAIN POST 31073
386.45 p25 nac 006H 31073
387.825 p25 nac 006H
388.3375 nac p25 30700 (range ops) 30500 is Encry
388.0375 p25 nac 006h
385.9875 p25 nac 006h 31073 30514
385.9875 p25 nac 006h 30759 30739 32112

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DoD has changed several trunked systems in the past few years.
Probably nobody in S NM and W TX has been paying attention or actively looking for new or changed systems.

Poeple in the Fort Bliss/WSMR/Holloman areas need to search 138-150.8, 380-390 and 406.1-411 MHz in 12.5 kHz steps for P25 control channels and post the System ID, RFSS Number, Site Number and Site NAC for everything they find.
I won't hold my breath on that ever happening.
 
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nd5y said:
DoD has changed several trunked systems in the past few years.
Probably nobody in S NM and W TX has been paying attention or actively looking for new or changed systems.

Poeple in the Fort Bliss/WSMR/Holloman areas need to search 138-150.8, 380-390 and 406.1-411 MHz in 12.5 kHz steps for P25 control channels and post the System ID, RFSS Number, Site Number and Site NAC for everything they find.
I won't hold my breath on that ever happening.
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When I get a chance and get this deal working I'll try to log on unitrunker what it picks up.
 
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I've been monitoring for quite a while. Drives me nuts I still don't understand this system. However, Radio Reference has most of the important TalkGroups messed up and not correct... These are confirmed.
"E" means encrypted.
Please let me know if you have heard any differences or changes.


11 RangeOps.1 Primary
22 RangeOps.2 Alt, Range Safety
1010 FBFD Dispatch, E
1111 FBFD Hazmat, E
1212 FBFD Tac-1, E
1313 FBFD Tac-2, E
1414 FBFD Tac-3, E
1515 FBFD Inter Op, E
1717 MPs Dispatch, E
1818 MPs Tac1, E
1919 MPs Tac2, E
2424 FBFD IOC-joint
2626 KBIF Ground Ops., ATC
2727 Base Ops.
2828 Base Ops.
2929 RangeOps, Range Safety
3030 Range Maint, Range Safety
3131 Ranges
3333 Ranges
3636 KBIF Supply, ATC, Ranges
3737 RangeOps, Range Safety
3838 Range Maint, Range Safety
3939 German Army Training
4040 Range Maint, Range Safety
4141 Range Maint, Range Safety
4242 KBIF Ground Ops, ATC
4545 WBAMC IOC, Staff
4747 WBAMC FB EMS Dispatch, E
4848 WBAMC Security, E
4949 WBAMC PTM, Ops.
5151 FBFD MASCAL, MCI
5252 Base Ops.
5757 Japanese Army Training
5959 Base Ops.
6161 Base Ops.
6262 Base Ops, Ranges, ACP
6363 Ranges Maint.
6464 Base Ops. some E
6767 Ranges Maint.
7070 Base Ops.
7171 Japanese Army Training
7474 Base Ops, Maint.
7575 Base Ops.
8080 Ranges Maint.
8282 Japanese Army Training
8383 Base Ops.
8484 Japanese Army Training
8585 Japanese Army Training
8787 Japanese Army Training
8989 Japanese Army Training
9494 German Army Training
9797 Base Ops, OIC Briefs, Contruction
9898 Base Ops. a3
9999 Ranges, Command
100100 Base Ops.
101101 Ranges, 68W, Medevac
103103 Ranges
104104 Ranges
105105 Ranges
109109 Ranges, 68W
110110 Ranges
111111 Ranges
114114 Ranges
115115 Ranges, JATO
118118 Japanese Army Training
119119 Japanese Army Training
121121 Ranges
122122 Ranges
123123 Ranges
124124 Ranges
125125 Ranges
126126 IT, Ranges, Dispatch
127127 Ranges
130130 Ranges
135135 Ranges
136136 Ranges
137137 Ranges
138138 Range Ops 3
139139 Ranges
142142 Base Ops.
145145 Ranges
146146 Equipment, Supply
149149 Ranges
152152 Ranges
156156 Base Ops.
159159 Ranges
166166 Ranges
167167 Ranges
172172 WBAMC, Clinics
174174 Ranges
176176 Ranges
183183 Ranges Maint.
185185 Ranges
187187 Ranges
188188 Ranges, Briefs
189189 Ranges
190190 Ranges, Medevac
192192 Ranges
193193 Ranges
195195 Ranges
197197 Ranges
198198 Ranges
200200 Ranges
208208 Ranges
209209 Ranges
219219 Motor Pool
220220 Ranges
221221 Ranges
225225 Base Ops. some E
226226 Ranges
227227 Base Ops.
230230 Ranges
235235 Motor Pool
250250 Motor Pool
251251 Ranges, Scenarios
253253 Ranges, Tanks, Training
254254 Ranges
256256 Ranges
258258 Ranges
259259 Ranges
 
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260260 Ranges
262262 Ranges
263263 Ranges
264264 Ranges, Base Ops.
266266 Ranges
267267 Ranges
268268 Ranges
270270 Base Ops.
272272 Ranges
277277 Japanese Army Training
279279 Ranges
287287 Base Ops. CQ desk
288288 Base Ops.
289289 Base Ops. some E
292292 Ranges
301301 Ranges
304304 Ranges
305305 Ranges
310310 Base Ops.
312312 Ranges
317317 Ranges
318318 Ranges
324324 Ranges
325325 Ranges
326326 Convoys, Briefs
332332 Base Ops.
333333 WSMR, Ranges
334334 Ranges, Convoys
338338 Ranges
346346 Ranges
349349 IT Ops. 2
350350 Ranges
350350 Ranges
356356 Ranges
358358 Ranges
359359 Ranges
361361 Ranges
362362 Ranges
364364 Cemetery
365365 Ranges
367367 Ranges
368368 Ranges, Medevac
369369 Ranges
371371 Ranges
372372 Ranges
374374 WX Ch. unused
375375 Shuttles4
376376 Convoys
377377 Convoys
378378 Ranges
379379 Ranges
385385 Ranges
386386 Ranges
387387 Ranges
388388 Ranges
389389 Ranges
390390 Ranges
391391 Ranges
392392 Ranges
393393 Ranges
396396 Ranges, Maint.
398398 Ranges, Common some E
408408 Ranges
409409 Ranges
410410 Ranges
411411 Ranges
412412 Japanese Army Training
413413 Japanese Army Training
414414 Japanese Army Training
415415 Ranges
416416 Shuttles1 Control
417417 Ranges, Common
419419 Shuttles3
420420 Shuttles2
421421 Ranges
423423 Ranges
424424 Ranges
425425 Ranges Maint.
426426 Ranges
427427 Ranges
430430 Base Ops.
431431 Base Ops. Snake Pit
432432 Ranges
433433 Ranges, Medevac
436436 Base Ops.
441441 Ranges
442442 Ranges, some E
443443 Ranges
448448 Ranges
449449 Ranges
471471 Covoys
472472 Ranges
910910 Base Ops. Maint.
10921092 Ranges, Convoys
22352235 Ranges
33483348 WSMR Base Ops. IT Dept.
33493349 WSMR Drones
 
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1034310343 Ranges
1300213002 WSMR 911 Net
1301013010 WSMR 911 Net
1301313013 WSMR FD-1 patch FBFD, some E
1301413014 WSMR FD-2
1301713017 WSMR PD-1 Dispatch, some E
1301813018 WSMR PD-2 Bataan
1302013020 WSMR FD-3 Inspectors
1302113021 WSMR WSD Roadblocks
1302513025 WSMR WSD Command
1303013030 WSMR Mcafee1, Bataan Injuries
1303113031 WSMR Mcafee2, Bataan Admin
1303213032 WSMR Bataan, Vans, Commanders
1303513035 WSMR Bataan, Med1
1303613036 WSMR Bataan, Med2
1303713037 WSMR Bataan, Med3, Ambu
1303813038 WSMR Mcafee3, Bataan OIC, Medevac
1304013040 WSMR Training
1304113041 WSMR Training
1304213042 WSMR Training
1304613046 WSMR Training
1305913059 WSMR Training, Drones
1306013060 WSMR Training
1306313063 WSMR Training
1306413064 WSMR Training
1306813068 WSMR Training, Bataan
1307013070 WSMR Training
1307213072 WSMR, missile
1307813078 WSMR Training
1307913079 WSMR Maint.
1308013080 WSMR Comunity Ctr
1308113081 WSMR Comunity Ctr
1309613096 WSMR Training
1309813098 WSMR Training, Bataan
1309913099 WSMR Training
1310013100 WSMR Training
1310413104 WSMR Training, Bataan
1310513105 WSMR Training, Maint.
1310613106 WSMR Training, Maint.
1311313113 WSMR Training
1312513125 WSMR Training
1312813128 WSMR Training tests
1313113131 Japanese Army Training
1313813138 WSMR Training
1314113141 WSMR Training
1314513145 WSMR Training
1314613146 WSMR Training
1314813148 WSMR Training
1315013150 Training, Maint.
1315613156 WSMR Training
1315713157 WSMR Training
1316013160 WSMR Training
1316413164 WSMR Training
1316813168 WSMR Training
1318413184 WSMR Training
1318813188 WSMR Training
1318913189 WSMR Training
1320113201 WSMR Training
1320213202 WSMR Training
1320513205 WSMR Training
1320613206 WSMR Training
1320913209 WSMR Training
1321213212 WSMR Training
1321313213 WSMR Training
1321513215 WSMR Bataan, missile
1321613216 WSMR Training
1321813218 WSMR Training
1321913219 WSMR Training
1322113221 WSMR Training
1322213222 WSMR Training
1322713227 Japanese Army Training
1323113231 WSMR Drones, Flight
1327613276 WSMR Training
1327713277 WSMR Training
1327813278 WSMR Training
1328013280 WSMR Community Center
1328113281 WSMR Mcafee4, Bataan
1328213282 Training
1328313283 Training
1328413284 Training
2601626016 Cherokee Range Ops.
2601726017 Cherokee Range Ops.
2602426024 Cherokee Range Ops.
2604646046 Training, some E
2605026050 Cherokee Range Ops.
2606026060 Cherokee Range Ops.
2606326063 Training, HELSTF
2606726067 Security
2607326073 Base PT testing
2613626136 Maint. Crews
2613726137 Maint. Crews
2614826148 Maint. Crews
2616026160 Range Ops.
2616826168 Range Ops.
3901039010 NASA WSTF
3901239012 NASA WSTF
3902439024 NASA WSTF FD 1 Dispatch
3903539035 NASA WSTF
3904639046 NASA WSTF PD F1 Dispatch
3908839088 NASA WSTF
 
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nd5y said:
DoD has changed several trunked systems in the past few years.
Probably nobody in S NM and W TX has been paying attention or actively looking for new or changed systems.

People in the Fort Bliss/WSMR/Holloman areas need to search 138-150.8, 380-390, and 406.1-411 MHz in 12.5 kHz steps for P25 control channels and post the System ID, RFSS Number, Site Number, and Site NAC for everything they find.
I won't hold my breath on that ever happening.
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Well, the 380-390 are the frequencies from the FBWS P25 band for the repeaters way up north and the 406.1-411 is the main band for the same Trunking system just closer to el Paso and on the ranges. I live in far east El Paso, however, will start going through the 138-150.8 band - what am I looking for? why 150.8 <-- that's an oddly specific frequency? The 140s band should have a few frequencies in the "military" for the ANG Air national guard and the Army National Gaurd.. their building is located on Montana and Geo dieter I think.. I have heard also some of the CAP civilian Air patrol peeps flying around Fort Bliss playing with the "fake" down ELT on 121.5 or actually 121.6 which is used as training to practice finding a crashed plane. Also on 146.88 HAM channel repeated the fake ELT too. I watch the planes fly around fort bliss Mcgregor's training range on the FLight24 website.
What are you looking for within the VHF band ?
 
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emtbucky1 said:
I live in far east El Paso,
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I feel sorry for you.
I lived in far east EP over 40 years ago near East Glen & Sam Snead. Back then George Dieter was dirt road they just graded and the next street to the east was probably in Pecos. Even back then El Paso was a s**t hole. I can't begin to imagine what it's like now.
emtbucky1 said:
however, will start going through the 138-150.8 band - what am I looking for? why 150.8 <-- that's an oddly specific frequency? What are you looking for within the VHF band ?
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The DoD has some VHF trunked systems. The highest NTIA allocation is 150.8 although the lowest FCC allocation is 150.775. Just to make sure there aren't any new DoD systems in that area.
 
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I know this isn't what you're looking for however as far as DoD in the VHF for this area, I'll share what I have found just for the heck of it..:
With the exception of 134.1 Seldom use on the rest of them.


134.10000KBIF BlissRDO, Mcgregor, Ranges, FBFD, RangeOps, Medevac, links to 237.2 and 32.05, 41.7 FM
136.27500Air NG, AM
138.40000TX NG Ch.5 TAC 5
139.57500TX NG Ch.8 TAC 8
139.87000CAP, USAF RPTR
139.87500CAP, USAF Tactical/Misc Tac-1, Analog 173.8c RPTR
139.87500CAP, USAF Tactical/Misc Tac-1, Digital P25 NAC $6CA RPTR
140.41250TX NG Ch.2 NG Tac-2
141.00000CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 2 Analog 131.8c RPTR
141.00000CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 2 Digital 526 NAC RPTR
141.57500CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 1 Analog 127.3 PL RPTR
141.57500CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 1 Digital 4F9 NAC RPTR
141.67500TX NG Ch.3 NG Tac-3 127.3c RPTR
142.40000TX NG Ch.4 NG Tac-4 127.3c RPTR
142.76250TX NG Ch.11 NG RPTR
143.12500KBIF, Biggs AAF, Air NG Ops
143.55000CAP, USAF (I) 148.125 on ‘Tac-1’ during flight Foxtro2, BigBen on Romeo-13 RPTR, Switch to ch. Cuff
143.60000CAP, USAF (I)
143.62000CAP, USAF (I) 148.1375 Airborne/HT Tactical RPTR
143.62500CAP, USAF (I): 148.1375, P25 Airborne
143.70000CAP, USAF (I) 148.15
144.95000TX NG Ch.6 TAC 6
146.30000TX NG Ch.7 TAC 7
148.12500CAP USAF, Cmn Access Tone (CAT) RPTR 143.55, 7F3 NAC
148.12500CAP USAF, El Paso Ch.R-13 “Big Bend##” Dispatch 143.55, 91.5c
148.12500CAP USAF, El Paso Ch.R-13 “Big Bend##” Dispatch 143.55, $393 NAC
148.12500CAP USAF, NM Ch.R-61 “ShipRock##” Dispatch, Aircraft 143.55, 127.3c
148.12500CAP USAF, NM Ch.R-61 “ShipRock##” Dispatch, Aircraft 143.55, $4F9 NAC
148.12500CAP USAF, NM Ch.1 Aircraft 143.55, 203.5c
148.13750CAP, USAF 143.625 Airborne/Tac RPTR Aircraft: 203.5c
148.13750CAP USAF, Airborne HT RPTR Ch R69 Digital 526 NAC
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne HT RPTR Ch R67 Analog 203.5c
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne HT RPTR Ch R69 Analog 131.8c
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne HT RPTR Ch R68 Analog 192.8c
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne/Tactical RPTR, Aircraft: 203.5c
148.15000CAP USAF, Ch.2 Airborne/Tac RPTR Cathey Peak, 127.3c, Aircraft 143.7
148.15000CAP USAF, Ch.2 Airborne/Tac RPTR Cathey Peak, 203.5c, Aircraft 143.7
148.15000CAP USAF, Ch.2 Airborne/Tac RPTR Cathey Peak, 7F3 NAC, Aircraft 143.7
148.82500TX NG Ch.9 NG Convoy 1
149.22500NG Ch.2 Admin Net 67.0c
149.27500CAP USAF,Air 1, Analog 141.3c Air-Air, SSTV, 585 NAC
149.27500CAP USAF,Air 1, Digital 585 NAC
149.82500TX NG Ch.10 Convoy 2
149.83750TX NG Ch.1 NG JTF CMD1
150.22500CAP USAF,Guard-1, 162.2c, 656 NAC, Also 151.4c
150.22500CAP, USAF,Guard-1, 162.2c, 656 NAC, Also 151.4c
150.56250CAP USAF,Air-2 151.4c, 5EA NAC, Air-Air
150.56250CAP USAF,Air 2 Digital 526 NAC
150.75000WBAMC, Bliss RDO, McGregor, Range Ops, Medevac, Military, WBAMC EMS, (old?)
165.06250FBFD - digital signal to fire dept, base fire alarms
168.52500VA Hospital - Transportation Ops, 141.3c
237.20000BlissRDO, 134.1
237.20000KBIF, Biggs AAF, Bliss Radio UHF, 134.1
 
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FYI, some of those listings you have as RPTR are actually Simplex - Not Repeaters
141.0000 and 141.5750 as two major examples

emtbucky1 said:
I know this isn't what you're looking for however as far as DoD in the VHF for this area, I'll share what I have found just for the heck of it..:
With the exception of 134.1 Seldom use on the rest of them.


134.10000KBIF BlissRDO, Mcgregor, Ranges, FBFD, RangeOps, Medevac, links to 237.2 and 32.05, 41.7 FM
136.27500Air NG, AM
138.40000TX NG Ch.5 TAC 5
139.57500TX NG Ch.8 TAC 8
139.87000CAP, USAF RPTR
139.87500CAP, USAF Tactical/Misc Tac-1, Analog 173.8c RPTR
139.87500CAP, USAF Tactical/Misc Tac-1, Digital P25 NAC $6CA RPTR
140.41250TX NG Ch.2 NG Tac-2
141.00000CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 2 Analog 131.8c RPTR
141.00000CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 2 Digital 526 NAC RPTR
141.57500CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 1 Analog 127.3 PL RPTR
141.57500CAP, USAF Cmnd/Control 1 Digital 4F9 NAC RPTR
141.67500TX NG Ch.3 NG Tac-3 127.3c RPTR
142.40000TX NG Ch.4 NG Tac-4 127.3c RPTR
142.76250TX NG Ch.11 NG RPTR
143.12500KBIF, Biggs AAF, Air NG Ops
143.55000CAP, USAF (I) 148.125 on ‘Tac-1’ during flight Foxtro2, BigBen on Romeo-13 RPTR, Switch to ch. Cuff
143.60000CAP, USAF (I)
143.62000CAP, USAF (I) 148.1375 Airborne/HT Tactical RPTR
143.62500CAP, USAF (I): 148.1375, P25 Airborne
143.70000CAP, USAF (I) 148.15
144.95000TX NG Ch.6 TAC 6
146.30000TX NG Ch.7 TAC 7
148.12500CAP USAF, Cmn Access Tone (CAT) RPTR 143.55, 7F3 NAC
148.12500CAP USAF, El Paso Ch.R-13 “Big Bend##” Dispatch 143.55, 91.5c
148.12500CAP USAF, El Paso Ch.R-13 “Big Bend##” Dispatch 143.55, $393 NAC
148.12500CAP USAF, NM Ch.R-61 “ShipRock##” Dispatch, Aircraft 143.55, 127.3c
148.12500CAP USAF, NM Ch.R-61 “ShipRock##” Dispatch, Aircraft 143.55, $4F9 NAC
148.12500CAP USAF, NM Ch.1 Aircraft 143.55, 203.5c
148.13750CAP, USAF 143.625 Airborne/Tac RPTR Aircraft: 203.5c
148.13750CAP USAF, Airborne HT RPTR Ch R69 Digital 526 NAC
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne HT RPTR Ch R67 Analog 203.5c
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne HT RPTR Ch R69 Analog 131.8c
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne HT RPTR Ch R68 Analog 192.8c
148.13750CAP USAF, 143.625 Airborne/Tactical RPTR, Aircraft: 203.5c
148.15000CAP USAF, Ch.2 Airborne/Tac RPTR Cathey Peak, 127.3c, Aircraft 143.7
148.15000CAP USAF, Ch.2 Airborne/Tac RPTR Cathey Peak, 203.5c, Aircraft 143.7
148.15000CAP USAF, Ch.2 Airborne/Tac RPTR Cathey Peak, 7F3 NAC, Aircraft 143.7
148.82500TX NG Ch.9 NG Convoy 1
149.22500NG Ch.2 Admin Net 67.0c
149.27500CAP USAF,Air 1, Analog 141.3c Air-Air, SSTV, 585 NAC
149.27500CAP USAF,Air 1, Digital 585 NAC
149.82500TX NG Ch.10 Convoy 2
149.83750TX NG Ch.1 NG JTF CMD1
150.22500CAP USAF,Guard-1, 162.2c, 656 NAC, Also 151.4c
150.22500CAP, USAF,Guard-1, 162.2c, 656 NAC, Also 151.4c
150.56250CAP USAF,Air-2 151.4c, 5EA NAC, Air-Air
150.56250CAP USAF,Air 2 Digital 526 NAC
150.75000WBAMC, Bliss RDO, McGregor, Range Ops, Medevac, Military, WBAMC EMS, (old?)
165.06250FBFD - digital signal to fire dept, base fire alarms
168.52500VA Hospital - Transportation Ops, 141.3c
237.20000BlissRDO, 134.1
237.20000KBIF, Biggs AAF, Bliss Radio UHF, 134.1
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emtbucky1 said:
I know this isn't what you're looking for however as far as DoD in the VHF for this area, I'll share what I have found just for the heck of it..:
With the exception of 134.1 Seldom use on the rest of them.
144.95000TX NG Ch.6 TAC 6
146.30000TX NG Ch.7 TAC 7
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These are in the ham band? I was under the impression Part 97 users were primary on 144-148?
 
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KE5ZBG said:
These are in the ham band?
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I think those are from a Texas Army National Guard frequency list from many years ago.
Somebody allegedly got a code plug from one of their radios and there were several frequencies in the 2m ham band. I think it was probably bogus but maybe not.
 
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