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Respectivly, I ask--what can the Home Patrol do that the 396 cannot do? Excluding the touch screne. How long does it take to power on and start scanning? 3 seconds for the 396xt---yes, I do have 1--396xt.
Close call? Tone out fire option?
 

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Respectivly, I ask--what can the Home Patrol do that the 396 cannot do? Excluding the touch screne. How long does it take to power on and start scanning? 3 seconds for the 396xt---yes, I do have 1--396xt.
Close call? Tone out fire option?


i believe the homepatrol is just an easier to setup scanner. given my dislike of sd card scanners, i doubt if i would ever buy one. no it doesn't do fto or closecall. i think it is 3 seconds, if you have it set to go.
 

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Respectivly, I ask--what can the Home Patrol do that the 396 cannot do? Excluding the touch screne. How long does it take to power on and start scanning? 3 seconds for the 396xt---yes, I do have 1--396xt.
Close call? Tone out fire option?

There are many features available on the Home Patrol that are not available on the BCD396xt, or any other scanner.

These paticular features are available with the paid Extreme upgrade, but you seem to be asking for a unit to unit comparison, rather than a comparison of features vs cost.


You can check descriptions and screen shots of those features here:

HomePatrolExtreme < HomePatrol < TWiki

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Respectivly, I ask--what can the Home Patrol do that the 396 cannot do? Excluding the touch screne. How long does it take to power on and start scanning? 3 seconds for the 396xt---yes, I do have 1--396xt.
Close call? Tone out fire option?

I buy and sell a lot, and have owned many 396T, 396XT, 996T, and 996XT. I currently use a 996XT for my feed, and have a 396XT for portable use. I've owned a PSR800 and a HomePatrol. I liked the HomePatrol as a scanner, but sold it because of the physical design. I have no need for a luggable radio I can't easily toss in my glovebox or clip on my belt. It would be tempting too as a true mobile if it would have a decent mounting system and if it was more compact and had a smaller screen - or remote head. It is just so awkward. I like the database programming though. I liked the PSR800 in general too, but didn't like the programming method - I know it was supposed to be dead simple, but somehow I always managed to combine systems where I didn't mean to. The HomePatrol has the advantage of a larger color touch screen and a well thought out interface that takes advantage of it.

I do like Uniden quality, and woud be all over a haldheld HomePatrol. What would they call it, a BeltPatrol or HandPatrol?
 

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I own both the Uniden 396XT and the Uniden home patrol Hp-1. There is no Extreme upgrade for the Uniden 396XT except for the lastest firmware on that I have on my 396XT. I do have the updated firmware on the Uniden Home Patrol. The Uniden HP-1 has a more sensitive front end on the receiver so it will pick up more. Cost direct from Uniden's web site---- Uniden 396Xt like new---($399.00,) Uniden Home Patrol HP-1--($429.00 )like new. This should answer the question on the cost 396xt vs Home Patrol HP-1.
 
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Respectivly, I ask--what can the Home Patrol do that the 396 cannot do? Excluding the touch screne.

Off the top of my head, these are the things the HP has that the 396XT does not:

  • "Instant replay" of audio up to 240 seconds (4 minutes) old
  • Optional recording of audio activity (different from the above; the above instant replay feature is erased as it gets older, the recordings will stay until they are deleted)
  • Not limited to 16 characters for alpha tags
  • Can select what to listen to based on service tags
  • Entire North American database stored on the scanner's microSD card (and updated weekly by Uniden via the RadioReference database)
  • Mute button
  • Much easier to hold on a system, group, or individual channel than on a x96XT
  • Multiple "favorites lists" in addition to the main database, and can select any or all of the favorites lists plus the main database to listen to or not
  • Favorites lists and recordings are limited only by the size of the microSD card used (comes with a 2GB card but I have personally confirmed up to 32GB cards work fine)
  • Auto shutoff feature
  • Easier to manage avoids (lockouts)
  • "Discovery Mode" lets you let the scanner run on either a chunk of conventional bandwidth or on a trunk system, recording and logging both audio and frequency/CTCSS/DCS/NAC/talkgroup data for later review
  • "Analyze Mode" lets you perform multiple analysis tasks on a given trunk system, including:
    • LCN finder for EDACS and/or LTR systems
    • Activity Log for any trunk system the radio can decode (P25, Motorola, EDACS, LTR), giving a Unitrunker or PRO96COM-like log file for later review
    • Current Activity screen indicating current use of the system frequencies
    • LCN Monitor screen indicating which LCNs are actually in use on a site
    • Talk Group Converter allowing you to convert AFS to decimal (or hex, etc) on the fly
  • Band Scope showing what frequencies are in use in the nearby area in a graphical format
  • RF Power Plot indicating the strength of a signal over time (helps identify the best direction to point your antenna, for example)
  • Raw Output allowing for a data output over the USB connection similar to a "discriminator tap"
  • Better use of GPS connectivity
How long does it take to power on and start scanning? 3 seconds for the 396xt---yes, I do have 1--396xt.

It would be comparable to that depending on what databases you're loading at startup. I listen to the main database and 4 separate favorites lists so mine takes a few more seconds to load all that data.

Close call?

Not per se, but the Band Scope shows you if there is a strong signal nearby, and you can then tune in to that frequency by tapping on the screen.

Tone out fire option?

I think you mean "Fire Tone Out", and the answer is no.

I have both a HomePatrol and a 396XT. The 396XT is used mainly for truly portable operation, particularly when I'm at the race track. The HomePatrol is, in my case, used more like a mobile/base radio. One of my HPs is expressly used in my car, the other in my home "shack". With the one in my car, I can run Trunk Analyze Mode on a trunk system while I'm out on the road, and not have to worry about pulling out my laptop, cables, and either my 396XT or my PSR500 in order to do trunk system analysis. I just take the microSD card out of the HP when I get home, plug it in to the computer, and copy off the analysis logs for review at my leisure (not to mention recordings of everything the radio's received all through my road trip).
 
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i think the homepatrol has some great assets. if my disposable income was more flexible, i would love to screw around with one.
i've read some really negative reviews about the reception performance, vs. the 396xt/996xt.
 
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Wow-I never seen a Uniden scanner get so burried. Jay-1 heck of an excellent answer. Personally, I'm not in favor of fire tone out. The older model of the 396xt--gps cord was-is a pain in the bnc.. You ever put a 396xt on the passenger seat of your vehicle? Sure does roll alot! That twist on / screw on antenna not being bnc originally, but an adapter to bnc. That gives me an idea. Screw in - on cable for antenna.hmmmmmm Always thinking
 
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Great answer, Jay!

I don't own a HP but had always considered it a scanner with training wheels. Your comprehensive post points out that it is much more than that. Thank you for taking the time to spell it out.

Maybe some day...
 

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Wow-I never seen a Uniden scanner get so burried.

you're not saying that i'm bashing the hp-1 correct ?. i'm really not. i'm just giving my opinion based on what i've read or seen on youtube. i've never even touched actually seen/touched the scanner.
i learned my lesson about bashing a scanner that i've never had contact with. prime example, i bugged uniden for the correct step sizes in the bc125at. uniden & paul stepped up to the plate with a firmware upgrade that fixed a few thing's that were not right with the scanner.
 

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you're not saying that i'm bashing the hp-1 correct ?No way!. I mean the 396xt got burried-by Home Patrol. Just seeing whats what between the 2. It is kinda easy to bury the 396xt. The subbanks, trying to get a sub bank turned off while scanning-say 5 banks-you have to wait for the 396xt to get on that bank which you plan to disengage 1 sub bank and engage sub bank 4.. Thats where you have to put a 2 second hold on your systems.. Dont get me wrong-good scanner, just too hard to do any fast scanning- like my sub bank statement.
 

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since i really <in all honesty> find the learning curve on some of the features on the 396xt/996xt somewhat daunting, heres what i do. it may waste a little space,but you have 25,000 channel's to work with. i don't use group's,just systems. i have it setup like this.

system
1-local/priority.
2-north of my home.
3-south of my home.
4-local pd.
5-nj state police.medevac&air only.
6-nj state police. search all talkgroups.
7-local power company. jcp&l.
8-digital fq's/federal.

last night, i hit a combo.of keys while using the 396 mobile. i screwed something up. i had to figure out how to get it straightened out. the way i have it setup,i can quicky enable/disable systems.
 

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system
1-local/priority.
2-north of my home.
3-south of my home.
4-local pd.
5-nj state police.medevac&air only.
6-nj state police. search all talkgroups.
7-local power company. jcp&l.
I envy you. I got 3 states, 3 county lines come together right beside me.Unfortunately theres nothing much east, northeast-southeast.
1..My immediate area
2..state of Maine
3..N.H-strafford-rockingha-bellknap
4..Radio for special moments
5.local fire dept's only
6..side channels--dot-few locals
7..Central Maine Power--800mhz ltr
8..hospitals--med reports
9..N.H power--P.S.N.H
10..airports
11..Maine 935:mot system
12..Barrington N.H 935:mot
13..Concord 935 mot:
14..Mass-towns
15..Mass trunk systems
16..Nashua N.H
so--on so---on. I got 20 banks used up in my 396xt for scanning-15 seach banks
 

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For a novice That just wants to monitor what's going on nearby with ease, the home patrol hands down! With the extreme upgrade you can get a little more advanced options.
As for the 396 it has so many more bells and whistles than the HP that there is no comparison, the trade is that you have to learn how to set the 396 up to your needs.
But the HP will not do anything that you can't set the 396 up to do! Our Arty least that's been my experience.
 

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If you do not need the Uniden Hp-1 with all the extra items on it keep it simple and stay with the 396XT. The Uniden Hp-1 can be comparied to a top of the line Lexus car with all the chrome. A lot of people just want to keep it simple with something they understand.The 396XT is not hard to set up to monitor your local systems. I can have a Uniden 396XT up and running in 10 minutes by hand with no computer needed for programming.
 

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If I can have a Uniden 396XT up and running in 10 minutes by hand with no computer needed for programming.

Assuming you already have all the frequenices, agency names, department names, etc for your community and/or have a computer for rr.com download and internet connection handy with which to programthe 396.

If you take the HP-1 to a "Strange" location you do not regularly visit, as if I have a number to times, After arriving at my hotel room, I look at the room telepone for the zipcode, in 30 seconds my HP-1 is up and scanning with the approrpriate frequencies, agency and department names.

Prior to the HP-1, I took my 396 and borrowed/begged a file from anohter scannist if I could locate one beforehand and loaded that file into the 396 in advance because there was little I could do on the spot.

To me personally the 396 is not Easy to program, but maybe that's just me.
 

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The 396xt is the easiest scanner to program. I can have one set up out of the box ready to go in 10 minutes. I do not use a computer. All of my programming is done by hand to make sure the job is done right. This also includes talkgroups and alpha tags for those talkgroups.
 

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I agree, it's not easy to program-IF you arent familiar with uniden scanner. Took me 3 hours to master it. But it was a tylenol 3 hours. ( major headache ) O.K, we see how good the H-P-1 is, with all matters weighed in, I say it's a tie... Both scanners are awesome in their own world.. Anyone think they will stop making analog scanners--all brands? It would be a huge sale-out with analog,in with p25 technology.
 
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