Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2021

[ind224]

Ty 853.8875 was very low no decode (unusual) and I used Martinsville 7125 that was a surprise to work at that time for a bit.
8875 seems better today and hoping to get the yagi up a bit higher today as well and perhaps try for Mooresville. Full Morgan Co coverage is the lofty goal but the neighbor trees have exploded with all this rain.
I like CC DXing this system win or lose. Thanks again.

 

[west-pac]

.... I like CC DXing this system....

Now you're talking my language!! I chase DX almost every weekend mornings. From my place, using an 800Mhz Wilson yagi, and a Comet CX-333 antenna at 25ft AGL, I've received VHF, UHF, and 700-900Mhz DX from all over the midwest; from Ontario, to Wisconsin, to Missouri, to western Virginia, and a lot places in between. As far as trees go, I have that issue also. Mine, and my neighbor's 60-80ft tall sections of woods, cover from my west, around the south, and over to my east, yet somehow I can still receive some good DX in those directions, even off the backside of the yagi.


Here is a map of the SAFE-T sites in your area. If you've had limited success by listening to Hendricks county (site 1.4), and Martinsville (site 2.59), you're likely a good candidate for the Mooresville (site 2.16) site.

I was through southwest Indiana a couple weeks ago when I was hunting the new Duke Energy P25 system. Beautiful countryside down there, with rolling hills and curvy roads, compared to how flat and straight it is up here in northern Indiana.

 

[DiGiTaLD]

Ty 853.8875 was very low no decode (unusual) and I used Martinsville 7125 that was a surprise to work at that time for a bit.
8875 seems better today and hoping to get the yagi up a bit higher today as well and perhaps try for Mooresville. Full Morgan Co coverage is the lofty goal but the neighbor trees have exploded with all this rain.
I like CC DXing this system win or lose. Thanks again.

Totally unscientific observation here, but I have noticed that around the time they converted to P25, both Hendricks simulcast and Boone simulcast were nowhere near as strong at my house as they used to be when they were still Type II SmartZone Omnilink. The change from Type II to P25 should have had nothing to do with it, but there is also the possibility that some other changes were made to optimize coverage within the simulcast cells that caused a pattern change resulting in a weaker signal for me.

 

[AK9R]

otally unscientific observation here, but I have noticed that around the time they converted to P25, both Hendricks simulcast and Boone simulcast were nowhere near as strong at my house as they used to be when they were still Type II SmartZone Omnilink.

Around the time that the Hendricks towers were switched to P25 trunking, two more towers, the one at Belleville and the one at Brownsburg, were brought online. I suspect that the Danville and Plainfield towers received some tweaking at that time as the two new towers filled in coverage gaps that the existing towers were trying to fill.

 

[west-pac]

I presume site 1.44 can be marked off-line (like Valpo) or deleted, since it's freqs are part of the 1.6 simulcast site, correct? I'm going thru my P25data file and I've never received 1.44, or had anyone list it as a neighbor.

 

[cubn]

I went out to Brownsburg to listen for NHRA frequencies on Sunday (NHRA observations here) and heard two new SAFE-T talkgroups.

Site 104 Hendricks County
*12520 - mentioned breaks at 2 and 4pm
*12521 - "code rainbow" on the pool deck, pump room

 

[werinshades]

Is the Angola Site (1-044) still on the air or have the frequencies been reallocated to the Steuben County Simulcast?

 

[west-pac]

Is the Angola Site (1-044) still on the air or have the frequencies been reallocated to the Steuben County Simulcast?

It's not on the air, and is part of the simulcast.

 

[werinshades]

It's not on the air, and is part of the simulcast.

Setting up a SDS100 for someone who lives in Auburn. Does the 1-045 Auburn site carry all the traffic in the county including DeKalb Sheriff, and Indiana State Police Dist. 22, or is it best to add the Steuben Simulcast Site to the System?

***Maybe the databsse administrator can remove the Angola site?***

 

[west-pac]

***Maybe the databsse administrator can remove the Angola site?***

That will likely require a submission.

99% of the time the sites in each county will carry all of the traffic in the area, including state agencies, the local county, and surrounding counties will there is an out-of-county affiliation.

Some sites, however, don't carry specific TGs or agencies. Those sites and TGs are mostly undocumented, like site 1.22 that doesn't carry state police Disp TGs, even though it's located directly along I-69. Without listening to a site consistently over a period of time, it's hard telling which TGs may not be allowed on that specific site.

 

[werinshades]

That will likely require a submission.

99% of the time the sites in each county will carry all of the traffic in the area, including state agencies, the local county, and surrounding counties will there is an out-of-county affiliation.

Some sites, however, don't carry specific TGs or agencies. Those sites and TGs are mostly undocumented, like site 1.22 that doesn't carry state police Disp TGs, even though it's located directly along I-69. Without listening to a site consistently over a period of time, it's hard telling which TGs may not be allowed on that specific site.

Thanks. I programmed in Auburn and Steuben Simulcast to be on the safe side, since I'm not there all the time. Very limited listening interest, so not many talkgroups needed.

 

[KC9LQV]

Totally unscientific observation here, but I have noticed that around the time they converted to P25, both Hendricks simulcast and Boone simulcast were nowhere near as strong at my house as they used to be when they were still Type II SmartZone Omnilink. The change from Type II to P25 should have had nothing to do with it, but there is also the possibility that some other changes were made to optimize coverage within the simulcast cells that caused a pattern change resulting in a weaker signal for me.

Totally unscientific obesrvation as well, when the P25 conversion kicked in, Hendricks became *much* stronger at my location near Putnamville, to the point where I am no longer able to monitor the Jasonville site, which is unfortunately on the same CC frequency. Previously I could monitor Jasonville and listen in on Greene and Sullivan counties, but afterwards Hendricks and Jasonville are about the same strength, and as a result they just walk on each other and I can't decode either. FWIW.

 

[werinshades]

Totally unscientific obesrvation as well, when the P25 conversion kicked in, Hendricks became *much* stronger at my location near Putnamville, to the point where I am no longer able to monitor the Jasonville site, which is unfortunately on the same CC frequency. Previously I could monitor Jasonville and listen in on Greene and Sullivan counties, but afterwards Hendricks and Jasonville are about the same strength, and as a result they just walk on each other and I can't decode either. FWIW.

Which scanner? If you can use the NAC code it will probably help.

 

[west-pac]

Totally unscientific obesrvation as well, when the P25 conversion kicked in, Hendricks became *much* stronger at my location near Putnamville, to the point where I am no longer able to monitor the Jasonville site, which is unfortunately on the same CC frequency. Previously I could monitor Jasonville and listen in on Greene and Sullivan counties, but afterwards Hendricks and Jasonville are about the same strength, and as a result they just walk on each other and I can't decode either. FWIW.

I could've swore I read this exact same comment before, either earlier this year, or in a previous year. Is there an update to this situation; or our we just recycling comments?

 

[KC9LQV]

Which scanner? If you can use the NAC code it will probably help.

Not a scanner, it's Maxtrac/Unitrunker/DSD+ setup. The two control channels walk over each other so badly neither decodes properly.

 

[KC9LQV]

I could've swore I read this exact same comment before, either earlier this year, or in a previous year. Is there an update to this situation; or our we just recycling comments?

It's possible I've mentioned it before in passing. They were talking about changes in the output of the Hendricks system, so I chimed in. Didn't know something could only ever be mentioned once, ever.

 

[werinshades]

Here's another site question...does the INDOC sites carry local/state police, or fire traffic or strictly prison operations?

 

[INDY72]

Here's another site question...does the INDOC sites carry local/state police, or fire traffic or strictly prison operations?

IDOC only unless major event, then ISP etc radios can be force affiliated.

 

[west-pac]

IDOC only unless major event, then ISP etc radios can be force affiliated.

Today would've been a good chance to see if state and local radios on SWMA 6 affiliated to the Miami Correctional IDOC site (1.92).

@milf , how does a radio 'force affiliate'?..Is that something that IPSC has to do remotely?

 

[INDY72]

A radio can be forced to affiliate with a restricted site by the user if they are trained, or IPSC can remotely do it by OTAP methods.