Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2024

[AK9R]

Let's start a new thread for reports of SAFE-T system changes and updates.

Previous "general information" SAFE-T threads:
Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2023
Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2022
Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2021
Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2020-
Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2019-
Hoosier SAFE-T Thread 2013-2018

Current APCO P25 Phase 1 system in database: Indiana Project Hoosier SAFE-T Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies

Deprecated Motorola Type II system in database: Indiana Project Hoosier SAFE-T (Motorola) Trunking System, Northeast Indiana, Indiana - Scanner Frequencies

SAFE-T in the RadioReference Wiki: Indiana Project Hoosier SAFE-T (P25) System Information - The RadioReference Wiki

 

[Rippey574]

Would any of these 2 work with the Hoosier Safe-T?

https://www.amazon.com/Uniden-Trunktracker-Digital-Scanner-UNNBCD996P2/dp/B00UJU5MUE/ref=psdc_2230642011_t2_B002IT1C8U

or

https://www.amazon.com/Uniden-BearTracker-BCT15X-TrunkTracker-Location-Based/dp/B002IT1C8U/ref=sr_1_4?crid=L19HJ7DOPIVG&keywords=bEARCAT%2Bscanner&qid=1704599567&sprefix=bearcat%2Bscanne%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&th=1

If none of those are compatible, what would some recommended ones be?

 

[AK9R]

The BCD996P2 will work, but may not perform well if the sites you want to listen to are simulcast.

I'm not sure about the BCT15X.

 

[usswood]

I'm not sure about the BCT15X.

The BCT15X is not a digital Scanner, It will not work on Safe-T

 

[usswood]

Would any of these 2 work with the Hoosier Safe-T?

https://www.amazon.com/Uniden-Trunktracker-Digital-Scanner-UNNBCD996P2/dp/B00UJU5MUE/ref=psdc_2230642011_t2_B002IT1C8U

or

https://www.amazon.com/Uniden-BearTracker-BCT15X-TrunkTracker-Location-Based/dp/B002IT1C8U/ref=sr_1_4?crid=L19HJ7DOPIVG&keywords=bEARCAT%2Bscanner&qid=1704599567&sprefix=bearcat%2Bscanne%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&th=1

If none of those are compatible, what would some recommended ones be?

TRX-1, TRX-2, SDS-100, SDS-200, and a few others.... Make sure what your looking at are Digital Scanners and not Analog only..

 

[Rippey574]

Thank you for the feedback; after checking all the units I ordered the Uniden SDS-200! Seems like that had the best options for what I was looking for.

 

[usswood]

Thank you for the feedback; after checking all the units I ordered the Uniden SDS-200! Seems like that had the best options for what I was looking for.

For what they offer, EXCELLENT choice!

 

[usswood]

First time seeing a State Police unit using a 95 prefix on his ID... Is the state out of 93 prefixes? Anyone know... It was a unit portable ID...

Bringing this back up for discussion again, I have noticed that units in D53 have zone 1 radio IDs and some zone 2 IDs with the new 95 Prefixes....Why wouldn't they all be zone 1 ids? Any thoughts anyone??? Only a few units left with the 93 prefixes...

 

[IndyScan]

I was cleaning up my Proscan Unit ID file today & noticed a bunch of new 93 RIDs too.

What’s the breakdown of the RID that identifies it as a mobile/portable. I’m clear on the first 2 digits but forgot how to “decode” the remaining numbers.

Thanks!

 

[IndyScan]

I was cleaning up my Proscan Unit ID file today & noticed a bunch of new 93 RIDs too.

What’s the breakdown of the RID that identifies it as a mobile/portable. I’m clear on the first 2 digits but forgot how to “decode” the remaining numbers.

Thanks!

CORRECTION - A lot of new 95 RIDs!

 

[INDY72]

Its been a while.... Its the length of the RID. Shorter is Consoles, Longer is HT/Mobiles. EX: 93100 Is ISP D52 Console, 95121405 Is an ISP D52 Trooper. Logged that on the chase tonight from Shelby County that ended up here in Indy at 74 junction near the paintball compound. The new 95XXXXXX Series could be the APX N's I believe, as the older first gen APX'es get replaced.

 

[IndyScan]

Its been a while.... Its the length of the RID. Shorter is Consoles, Longer is HT/Mobiles. EX: 93100 Is ISP D52 Console, 95121405 Is an ISP D52 Trooper. Logged that on the chase tonight from Shelby County that ended up here in Indy at 74 junction near the paintball compound. The new 95XXXXXX Series could be the APX N's I believe, as the older first gen APX'es get replaced.

I’ve noted the shorter RIDs (or RIDs at the beginning of a sequence or group) are consoles & the first 2 digits are significant as they designate the county or state or federal.

I *thought* I saw somewhere (a while back) the remaining 6 digits could be broken down to group in other ways like HT vs mobile.

It seems a majority of 3rd digits are a 1 or 2 (with others numbers in that place but not as often as 1&2).

I also might be trying to make more order out of it than there is! Ha

Always fun when a bunch of new RIDs pop up!

Thanks

 

[INDY72]

01XXXXXXX thru 99XXXXXXX are County, and State of IN ID's, with 99 being purely Federal. Ex: 491XXXXX would be an Marion County, Zone 1 RID. (Marion County Consoles being the oddballs in numbering schemes, with most city/county being 79XXXX, with some hospitals being 31XXXX, and the agencies using Mobiles as consoles having the 49XXXXXX RID's. *Usually you don't see Marion County Consoles get on the SAFE-T, but it has happened before.*) If I am right, 88XXXXXX thru 98XXXXXXX are the blocked for State, Railroad, Special Event/Emergencies, and Cache RID's. One day, you may even start seeing old "retired" RID's be reused on new radios but that is a long way off still.

 

[west-pac]

It appears that Parkview Hospital's "Samaritan" medical helicopters, in northern Indiana, are using TG 10349, which is currently listed as a Hendricks Co LE TG.

Also, SAM and Lutheran Air apparently have (2) 800mhz radios, one being a 9399xxx RID, and another with an Allen Co 213xxx RID.

Also, the Samaritan Disp console RID changed to a 9210XXX, Whitley county RID. I wonder if they moved their SAM Disp center to Whitley Co.

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I also heard MedFlight 8 (out of area bird) talking to MedFlight Disp asking them "Do you still use the FlightWatch (TG) for everything, or you use one of those "Air Med" frequencies (TGs)."

This leads me to believe that maybe all of these individual "company" helicopter TGs (10058, 10081, 10117, 10349, etc..) are actually all "Air Med" TGs, similar to the old UHF "Med" channels.

IU LifeLine calls TG 10058 "Air Med 1". Maybe StatFlight's TG 10081 is actually "Air Med 2" ?; Maybe Lutheran Air's TG 10117 is actually "Air Med 3" ?

I've seen Lutheran Air on some of those other former Dekalb Co 1011X TGs as well.

 

[usswood]

IU LifeLine calls TG 10058 "Air Med 1". Maybe StatFlight's TG 10081 is actually "Air Med 2" ?; Maybe Lutheran Air's TG 10117 is actually "Air Med 3" ?

I've seen Lutheran Air on some of those other former Dekalb Co 1011X TGs as well.

Only thing with that is, I have hard on more than one occasion Lifeline pilots refer to their talkgroup as Air-Gnd as oppose to Air Med...

 

[usswood]

@west-pac I sure enough heard that Air Med 1 reference the other night, a few times, from 2 different aircraft.... Good Call on that one!

Also, the old jail in Terre Haute is getting torn down and the Safe-T tower will have to be moved.... It might go off the air in the next few months, they are guessing about 6 months to move the tower but didn't give a new location for it.... My guess is further inside of Terre Haute, probably the 9th and crawford st area where Vigo County Highway is located and their is plenty of room for it. think that ID is 038

 

[west-pac]

Also, the old jail in Terre Haute is getting torn down and the Safe-T tower will have to be moved.... It might go off the air in the next few months, they are guessing about 6 months to move the tower but didn't give a new location for it.... My guess is further inside of Terre Haute, probably the 9th and crawford st area where Vigo County Highway is located and their is plenty of room for it. think that ID is 038

That is the "Vigo County" SAFE-T site that was at the old jail.

The "Terre Haute" SAFE-T site is near Youngstown, at this building...

Are both SAFE-T sites needed? They're only 6.5 miles away from each other.

Terre Haute PD has their own 3-site 800mhz license also.

 

[usswood]

Right!, the old state police post (district 32), which is now part of Ivy Tech..... Yeah, the 3 freq site is the old EDACS system still running some city stuff.... City Bus, Street department, and such....The Vigo tower is a county bought tower into safe-T

 

[losttapes324]

Is anyone having trouble with LaPorte County simulcast? Because my scanner suddenly stopped picking up a signal from them. Before you ask, I do have another site from a neighboring county and I'm picking them up fine.

 

[west-pac]

Is anyone having trouble with LaPorte County simulcast? Because my scanner suddenly stopped picking up a signal from them. Before you ask, I do have another site from a neighboring county and I'm picking them up fine.

Make sure you have ALL of the Control Channels programed into your scanner.