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Hello,
i'm seeking a complete two meter file and was wondering if anyone on here had one prebuilt. I looked and found only partials listed on the site.

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Michael
 

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If it's a scanner, couldn't you just turn on the ham service?

The frequencies used will vary by area.
 
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If it's a scanner, couldn't you just turn on the ham service?

The frequencies used will vary by area.

Great Question,

There are a finite amount of repeater pairs for the 2 Meter band so by having them all identified, you can travel (without the GPS) and locate what is active. My thought is that I don't want to mess with restricted range elements when mobile.
I have all of the 70cm pairs so it would make sense to have the matching 2 M ones also.
 

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Find a listing of the all pairs, or use Excel to create one. Cut & paste to Excel to clean up, then C&P into Sentinel.

I used to have one years ago, but would never find it today. I also think ARC may have had one.


Point me to a list and I might create one :)


Edit - would this list work - minus the inputs??


https://www.wprcinfo.org/2Mpairs-NBFM.htm
 
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I was surprised to find that the Ham repeaters are not in the database. I found a thread here on RR that said the RACES and ARES repeaters are listed, but not the others, and it was a deliberate choice.

It sure would make life easier if the ham repeaters were in the database. Considering that a lot of hams are here, it's a double surprise, but I guess that was a discussion lost a long time ago.

With that said, I took the time to manually create a favorite list of all the DMR repeaters in New England. Unfortunately I didn't have their location information, so it's not as useful as it could be.

Someone else here on RR had a list of repeaters in New England that I found, and that helped also. I appreciate it.
 

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I was surprised to find that the Ham repeaters are not in the database. I found a thread here on RR that said the RACES and ARES repeaters are listed, but not the others, and it was a deliberate choice.

It sure would make life easier if the ham repeaters were in the database. Considering that a lot of hams are here, it's a double surprise, but I guess that was a discussion lost a long time ago.

With that said, I took the time to manually create a favorite list of all the DMR repeaters in New England. Unfortunately I didn't have their location information, so it's not as useful as it could be.

Someone else here on RR had a list of repeaters in New England that I found, and that helped also. I appreciate it.

Go to https://www.repeaterbook.com/

Lots and lots of repeaters are in there. Unfortunately, lots of ham repeaters are not in there. Be that as it may, it's one of the better sources for ham repeater information. Wander around in there and you may find what you want.
 

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Go to https://www.repeaterbook.com/

Lots and lots of repeaters are in there. Unfortunately, lots of ham repeaters are not in there. Be that as it may, it's one of the better sources for ham repeater information. Wander around in there and you may find what you want.

Yes, finding repeaters in other databases isn't a problem. :) But having them in the RR database makes it much easier to import into my Uniden scanner as it's almost automated. :)

Thanks for the link.
 

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As a ham, I would rather use the scan feature of a transceiver than a scanner to listen to those frequencies. Unless the scanner was dedicated to ham use only, the lengthy conversations will often keep it from scanning.

I think most hams spend their time on only a couple of repeaters in any community. The rest are inactive or dedicated for ARES or another service, too low power, etc.
 
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This is a dump of ham repeaters from various databases.

All repeaters are in with geo-tags. Read the README for details.

This assumes you have DMR enabled, as DMR repeaters are included. You can just "avoid" then when you hear digital noise if you don't want to pay for DMR. The DMR repeaters are not enabled in a very "smart" way as I don't have any of the channel information or user information on in the files.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/femdciakr9r5mvl/2018_08_11.zip?dl=1

This zip contains everything in USA and Canada from the databases. The underlying databases are not perfect, so there is stuff missing and also stuff included that isn't accurate.
 
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For KK4JUG:

The scanner is better at determining which repeaters are active in my current location then a transciever.

In my local area, I am able to recieve about 300 repeaters across all the bands the scanner supports. There isn't a transciever that supports 10 meters, 6 meters, 2 meters, 1.25 meters, 70cm, 33cm, and 23cm on the same radio. It's much easier to find a signal with the scanner then turn on the transciever that handles that band to ragchew.

It's also very useful in road trips. I have not seen any transcievers that can scan all local repeaters within xx miles while dynamically updating my location. I also have not seen any transcievers that can handle the entire set of repeaters on a long trip at once without needing to reprogram it. The scanner is "grab and go".
 

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I was surprised to find that the Ham repeaters are not in the database. I found a thread here on RR that said the RACES and ARES repeaters are listed, but not the others, and it was a deliberate choice.

It sure would make life easier if the ham repeaters were in the database. Considering that a lot of hams are here, it's a double surprise, but I guess that was a discussion lost a long time ago.

With that said, I took the time to manually create a favorite list of all the DMR repeaters in New England. Unfortunately I didn't have their location information, so it's not as useful as it could be.

Someone else here on RR had a list of repeaters in New England that I found, and that helped also. I appreciate it.

Ham repeaters are in the database for each county, but like other local frequencies they have to be identified and submitted in order to appear. We do not show all standard repeater frequencies in the nationwide frequency listings, since band plans vary around the country and what may be a repeater input or output in one area may not be the same in another area.
 

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To add to what Tom said - thereused to be a restiction on repeaters (only ARES - Skywarn, etc), but that has been removed.
 

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To add to what Tom said - thereused to be a restiction on repeaters (only ARES - Skywarn, etc), but that has been removed.

This is good news, perhaps some hams can start entering active repeaters. I'll look into entering a few, perhaps others can also.

My area has many active repeaters, but it seems only the ARES/RACES sites are in the RR database.
 

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Ham repeaters are in the database for each county, but like other local frequencies they have to be identified and submitted in order to appear. We do not show all standard repeater frequencies in the nationwide frequency listings, since band plans vary around the country and what may be a repeater input or output in one area may not be the same in another area.

I'm happy to submit some for my area. Thanks!
 

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You know, it's really a big task to keep a DB of amatuer radio repeaters. This is a hobby, some operators are extremely committed to the purpose. Operators come and go, sites are up and down, sunspots are active or they aren't.

All of these DBs suffer a lot of outdated information. It's gotten so bad that I have just about given up on the amatuer only DBs. I've been looking at the the frequency coordinators Frequency Coordinators reports. Yes, you have to shuffle through multiple data formats, but at least most of these require bi-annual verification that the site is still up.

Here are two examples, both from Michigan. One organization for the Upper Peninsula (the Superior State) and the other for the Lower Peninsula (the Trolls who live below the Mackinac bridge)

Upper Peninsula Amateur Radio Repeater Association – UPARRA
Michigan Area Repeater Council
 
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Even the frequency coordinators are not a good source of information sometimes. A recent example would be the coordinator in Florida. They didn't make the list of repeaters public and refused to process requests for new repeaters without the new applicant having inside information into their list of approved repeaters.

I believe that group has been taken over by new leadership and is on a better track now.

I think the difficulty with ham radio scanning is the distributed nature of how it is put together. There is no requirement for there to be a centralized list of repeaters, in fact, the requirement is only that your repeater can't interfere with anyone else. There are certainly repeaters that are not documented anywhere that have been running for decades, and also documented repeaters that have shut down, where the owner either died or isn't the one that documented them so the current owner does not know how to remove that documentation.

I like the fact that ham radio is decentralized in this way, but it does make scanning it more complex.

I know by using discovery on my 436 that there are at least ~300-ish ham repeaters that can be picked up from the discone antenna on my roof near San Jose (probably due to the tech community in Silicon Valley). The Northern California coordination committees list less then half of the ones I've logged.

RepeaterBook lists 80% of what I've logged correctly, 10% are listed but are somewhat incorrect, and also lists an additional ~120 repeaters that I've never logged being keyed up. The additional repeaters sometimes share frequency pairs and callsigns but are simply listed in a different location.

Since I don't know which of the duplicate entries are correct, I can't submit a change request to any database in good conscious. I also can't submit a change request for the ones I've never logged as running, since they could start transmitting the moment I turn off the scanner.

The list I've submitted earlier in this thread is my "best effort" of just combining a bunch of online databases and doing some WAG programmatic de-duping. I don't particularly care if I have "dead" entries, since the scanner simply won't stop on those entries. My list is "good enough" that I'm able to listen to what is going on nearby as I travel around the country for work, but it is by no means an authoritative list. It is slightly better then simply programming in the approved repeater pairs for each region, since most of the time my list will display the callsign correctly and give you a good idea about where the repeater could be located.

Mostly, I like using my list because it lets me get rid of a bunch of digital noise that I would otherwise hear by programmatically removing repeaters that the online databases say are digital modes that the scanner does not know how to decode. Listening to Yeasu's Fusion digital mode or slow scan TV as FM is painful to the ears.
 
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