hey guys, thanks for all the great info,I went out and bought the Kenwood Thf6a. didn't take long to figure out the menu and other settings,Using the downloaded software,seems to work fine. I got all the goodies to go with it ,aa case,dc cord,pc cord, smc34 sp/mic,soft case. I love the dual receive function and group linking,the only thing I wish it had is weather alert,maybe kenwood will have an update to upgrade. Again, thanks for all the info,hope I can return the favors sometime. Scannerdweeb.