How do I program a subfleet like this into my pro-96?

[Cobra_Commander]

How would i program this http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=TRSDB&sid=567
into my pro-96 since the manual is so hard to understand how to do this. :?: can someone give me a link that explains how to program the pro-96 for this?

 

[eyes00only]

I'm finally going to get a 96 when my tax return comes, so I will also have many questions. Try entering your post in the specific Pro96 forum. GOOD LUCK!

Jerry

 

[Voyager]

How would i program this http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=TRSDB&sid=567
into my pro-96 since the manual is so hard to understand how to do this. :?: can someone give me a link that explains how to program the pro-96 for this?

First choice would be to find a Win96 file for it and just copy-n-paste.

Short of that, it's much easier to program it in Win96.

IF you don't have Win96 (and you really should - it makes programming an management so much easier), you will have to set the fleetmap in the scanner based on the table on that page, then program the TGs and text tags. It's all in the manual. I think it's FUNC-3, but don't quote me on that. I use the PC for 99.99% of my programming - especially system data.

Joe M.

 

[loumaag]

TO: Cobra_Commander
For setting the Fleetmap, from the ID List Edit screen (you get there by pressing <PGM> <TRUNK>) press <FUNC> <8> then enter the fleetmap as it is described on the RR page you referenced. The specific instructions for doing this on the scanner are on page 37 of the manual. Once the fleetmap is set, then you can enter the Fleetcodes (talk groups) with the dashes (use the "." for a dash) in the ID List and alpha tag them.

Hope this helps.

 

[unitcharlie]

so back to cobra's original question:
how do i translate the information in this box:

Type B0 B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 B7
Mot M M M M C 2 J J
TT S12 S12 S12 S12 S3 S0 S10 S10

into useful information that i can plug into win 96.....

 

[loumaag]

so back to cobra's original question
...
... i can plug into win 96.....

Since the Pro-96 which is programmed by Win96 software is a TrunkTracker scanner you would use the information in the TT portion of the box. No translation is necessary as the numbers match exactly to the instructions given in the owners manual on the page I referenced earlier.

Type  B0   B1   B2   B3   B4  B5  B6   B7 
Mot   M    M    M    M    C   2   J    J  
TT    S12  S12  S12  S12  S3  S0  S10  S10

 

[unitcharlie]

thanx lou...

 

[fmon]

This is likely a day late and a buck short. :roll:
Lou previously conspired with me on this tidbit.

Motorola Fleetmaps
NON APCO 25 (9600-Baud) Motorola Systems use a fleetmap to help determine Talk Group information. The most common system is an all Type II, which is the default system on the Pro-96 and therefore requires no special effort on your part. However, if the system you want to scan is either Type I or a mixed Type II / Type I system, then you will have to program the fleetmap. Fleetmaps are used to determine the size of Fleets and Sub-Fleets for Type I and IIi systems. Most of these type systems can be found on RadioReference.com web site.

The Fleetmap is broken down into 8 blocks of size codes, which allow different sized Fleets (or Sub-Fleets) to be assigned to each block. Size code 12 uses 2 blocks, 13 uses 4 blocks and 14 uses all 8 blocks. During setup, your Pro-96 will skip to the next usable block accordingly. Note: You must program fleetmaps for these type systems before you can enter any Fleet/Sub-Fleet type Talkgroups.

Programming Fleetmaps
1. Restrict your radio to scanning the bank that contains the Motorola system that needs the fleetmap programmed.
2. Press MAN
3. Press FUNC then TRUNK, this puts the scanner in the Talkgroup programming mode.
4. Press FUNC then 8, this your Fleetmap screen and should be default Type II (Block 0 size code. Use 15 for type II S-00. The S is for size and the 00 is for Type II system in this block.
5. Using the information for your system, enter the 2-digit number for the first block, i.e., 04 for 4 etc.
6. Press ENTER, the new block number will appear (remember about size code 12, 13 and 14 previously discussed).
7. Repeat steps 5 and 6 until all 8 blocks are entered. Note: After pressing ENTER on block #7, the radio will return to the Talkgroup programming screen
8. Using the numbered buttons, key in your 1st tag. Note: use ( . ) for ( - ) Press ENTER.
9. Repeat step 8 until all are entered (30 per each of the 5 sub-banks)
A final note on Type 1 size codes: Many systems use size code 12 but size code 13 or 14 are rare.


This document by fmon with grateful help from loumagg

Note: As Voyager pointed out, how much easier this would be with Win96.

 

[unitcharlie]

roger that... my problem is that i really never understood which line in the rr.com database to enter... and i still have trouble sometimes figuring out that i am NOT listening to a type 2 system... so what are the other numbers/letters used for, which scanners, etc?

again all, thanx... this helps me anyway!

frank i miss your spad icons....

 

[loumaag]

roger that... my problem is that i really never understood which line in the rr.com database to enter... and i still have trouble sometimes figuring out that i am NOT listening to a type 2 system... so what are the other numbers/letters used for, which scanners, etc?

The other line (the middle one) is the actual Motorla Code for that block size. The top line is just the block number.

Some examples:
Motorola code for a Type II block is "2", TT code is "0".

Say you have a block sized for 1 Fleet, with 16 subfleets of 512 radios in each subfleet
Motorola code for this would be "D", TT code is "4" (This is probably the most widely used Type I block size.

There really is no mystery, just details. :lol:

 

[unitcharlie]

thanx guy.. i just got back into scanning with trunked system a couple of years ago and am learning the finer points.... unfortunately the details make the difference between putting shoes on the kid's feet and not.... again thanx for the info...

 

[fmon]

frank i miss your spad icons....

Charlie, what comes around goes around, you'll likely see them again once the newness of the 2096 wares out and nostalgia takes control again.

 

[unitcharlie]

frank: i couldn't resist... this is a 119 at fort campbell... the last time i saw it before seeing at the pratt museum i flew it to the bone yard... then while preparing to deploy for desert storm there it was behind the burger king.... QH131688.

 

[fmon]

This was taken on a joint operation off Martha's Vineyard. Notice the difference in the two raydomes, the Guppy with the Aps 20 and ours with the Aps 31. The Guppy's were the carrier AWAC's of those days and replaced by the E1, a twin engine piston puncher and later by the E2, which has twin turbo props and is still used today. Our all weather radar bomber was replaced by the Intruder in the early 60's. Of course the Hornet is the current Strike a/c for the Navy today.

BTW, I put your picture in the folder with my Spads. Did BK get it out of the bone yard?

 

[unitcharlie]

best i can tell it was taken to montana to bomb fires then ended up in pieces at campbell... that moment, the sight of my old friend, was one of the strangest i have ever had.... but i loved it.... love your spad pix... there aren't aircraft like that anymore... too many single or less than numerous use airframes.... and they smell like busses.....