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How many beleive Armageddon Coming?

Who thinks Armageddon is very near?

  • Very Soon

    Votes: 18 26.9%
  • Less than 2 years

    Votes: 8 11.9%
  • Or Never

    Votes: 41 61.2%

  • Total voters
    67
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Mat 24:14-31
(14) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
(15) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
(16) Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains:
(17) Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
(18) Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
(19) And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
(20) But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
(21) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
(22) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
(23) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
(24) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(25) Behold, I have told you before.
(26) Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
(27) For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(28) For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
(29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
(31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


I sure do.
 

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I believe it is coming - some day. But certainly not right now. If you believe the prophecies of the Bible (either Torah (OT) or NT), there are a few more things that need to happen before this event occurs.

It can't possibly be less than two years - there must be the last week of Daniel - seven years (or the seven year tribulation period). Abomination of Desolation (Daniel 9 and 11; Mark 13): 3 1/2 years after the seven year peace treaty and the agreement/declaration to allow Israel rebuild the Temple, the leader of the coalition of nations (signer of the peace treaty) will stand in the Temple and claim to be God (revealing himself as the Antichrist (Son of Perdition))...there first must be a Temple in Jerusalem for that to happen. As of right now, Jews are not even allowed on the Temple Mount even if they wanted to build a new Temple - but they are planning it (see the Temple Mount Faithful).

See also the Battle of Gog and Magog (Ezekial 38-39 and Revelation 20).


Mark 13:14 ¶ But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, (Dan. 9.27; 11.31; 12.11) standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains: - Jesus to his desciples and to us all.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate Dan. 9.27 ; 11.31 · Mt. 24.15 · Mk. 13.14 set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. - Gabriel,the Angel of the LORD (YHWH), to Daniel.
 
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Gilligan said:
(Mat 24:36) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
True, but in the same conversation, Jesus also said:

28 ¶ Now learn a parable of the fig tree: When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
29 so ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the ****crowing, or in the morning:
36 lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.​
Jesus said we will know the season. Otherwise, what would be the point to "watch?"

Most scholars interpret the "fig tree" as Israel and the putting forth of it's leaves as the rebirth of the Nation of Israel in 1948. The generation that sees this will not pass till all these things (in reference to Jesus' explanation of the end times events) are come to pass. A generation is anywhere from 40 - 70 years (biblical). We are still in the timeframe of that last generation!

The actual "day and hour," no; but the week, month, or year, probably; and the "season" (the way events are coming to pass), definitely.
 
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I have to say I do, because if you look at what's going around these
day with the war and other things that are occuring . I mean it say in
The Bible that in the final day nation will rise against nation and when
you have our government officials not approving the same sex marriage that the prophecy of the Bible is being fullfilled. I mean
it's only nation rising up nation it's also neighbor against neighbor .
If you look around the streets of America at all the violence going
on. When person trying to find his or her way around that city and
they stop and ask someone for directions, and then all of a sudden
that person is robbed and killed for no reason. It's like what Charlie
Daniels said in the song "Simplen Man" You whats wrong with the
world today, People done gone Put their Bibles away.they're livin
by the law of the jungle not the law of the land.
 

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red8 said:
I have to say I do, because if you look at what's going around these
day with the war and other things that are occuring . I mean it say in
The Bible that in the final day nation will rise against nation and when
you have our government officials not approving the same sex marriage that the prophecy of the Bible is being fullfilled. I mean
it's only nation rising up nation it's also neighbor against neighbor .
If you look around the streets of America at all the violence going
on. When person trying to find his or her way around that city and
they stop and ask someone for directions, and then all of a sudden
that person is robbed and killed for no reason. It's like what Charlie
Daniels said in the song "Simplen Man" You whats wrong with the
world today, People done gone Put their Bibles away.they're livin
by the law of the jungle not the law of the land.
who made the bible man
 
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Keep in mind that the next major event in God's timeline is the rapture of His saints, not the tribulation period for Israel or the world. So if you're a believer, you'll see all of it -- but from a much greater perspective.
 

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Please let me correct my self I DO NOT approve of same sex marriages. I AM a firm believer that marriage is a union between a
man and a woman. I was stating when congress failed to get the vote to BAN same sex marriages. I hope that I clarified that for You!
Maalox
red8
 

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red8 said:
Please let me correct my self I DO NOT approve of same sex marriages. I AM a firm believer that marriage is a union between a
man and a woman. I was stating when congress failed to get the vote to BAN same sex marriages. I hope that I clarified that for You!
Maalox
red8
yes thanks, you have.
 
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As Long As We Stay TRUE To The Lord And Saviour,

We have nothing to fear about, or to worry about with Armageddon! From my P.O.V the only ones that will need to worry are the ones that arent with the Lord, Our Saviour. I just hope they have NASCAR coverage up there, Go Jr. :)
 

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Prewrath Rapture

Gilligan said:
Keep in mind that the next major event in God's timeline is the rapture of His saints, not the tribulation period for Israel or the world. So if you're a believer, you'll see all of it -- but from a much greater perspective.
This is not necessarily true. This Pre-Tribulation rapture theory is only one of four major theories: Pre-Tribulation, Mid-Tribulation, Post-Tribulaion, and Pre-Wrath Rapture (AKA "Prewrath" Rapture theory).

I happen to subscribe to the Pre-Wrath Rapture theory. All the other theories have holes, errors, inconsistencies, etc. The Pre-Wrath Rapture theory seems to answer all the questions that the others seem to have, without leaving any open questions or without any inconsistencies or errors in logic and theology (as the others do), and fits seemlessly and flawlessly into the chronological events described in the book of Revelation.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
http://www.prewrathrapture.com/2005/11/the_prewrath_rapture_1.php
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0965178900/002-1002002-6996030?v=glance&n=283155
http://www.prewrathrapture.com/
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Rapture/index.html
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/C_12e.html#Pre_wrath_Rapture_Pre_WR
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/70thWeek.html
 
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I Don't Know About That Either???

hotdjdave said:
This is not necessarily true. This Pre-Tribulation rapture theory is only one of four major theories: Pre-Tribulation, Mid-Tribulation, Post-Tribulaion, and Pre-Wrath Rapture (AKA "Prewrath" Rapture theory).

I happen to subscribe to the Pre-Wrath Rapture theory. All the other theories have holes, errors, inconsistencies, etc. The Pre-Wrath Rapture theory seems to answer all the questions that the others seem to have, without leaving any open questions or without any inconsistencies or errors in logic and theology (as the others do), and fits seemlessly and flawlessly into the chronological events described in the book of Revelation.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
http://www.prewrathrapture.com/2005/11/the_prewrath_rapture_1.php
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0965178900/002-1002002-6996030?v=glance&n=283155
http://www.prewrathrapture.com/
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Rapture/index.html
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/C_12e.html#Pre_wrath_Rapture_Pre_WR
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/70thWeek.html
Not to sound like an @$$ or anything, But I don't know if (and correct me if Im wrong)
it happens and it will happen on God's Timeline, But we can't stop it from happening??
 
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