How to prg 380Mhz ctrl channel?

[Airdorn]

Hi all.

I was scanning around the freqs tonight here in Memphis, TN and I ran across 380.7250Mhz. It sounds exactly like a typical Motorola control channel.

Unitrunker never decodes anything at from that freq.

I tried programming it into my bcd996T as standard 800Mhz, VHF, and UHF but the scanner chokes and says "OUT OF BAND" when I try to enter the frequency.

Is it possible to program this into the scanner? If not, why would that Motorola-sounding control channel be there?

I'm fairly certain its not a P25 system because the P25 control channel sounds different.. best I can describe the P25 channel is that it sounds like an "idling diesel truck".

Now, maybe it IS a P25 system.. there *IS* a confirmed P25 Dept. of Defense control channel just a bit up the band at 380.025 -- that one DOES sound like an idling truck.

Thanks for any info on programming it!

 

[Liverdog]

Could be an older type II system, P16 or the like.

Does UniTrunker show no traffic or really is not decoding (shows "no signal")?

 

[Mick]

Try programming it as P25 NFM.

I can't get frqs in the 380-400 band to work any other way with that radio for TRS's.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Maybe it's a standalone digital conventional channel? Is the sound constant or sporadic?

 

[Airdorn]

Its constant. Just like a control channel.

 

[troymail]

Sounds like a 380 P25 system... did you try loading as P25?

 

[Airdorn]

Sounds like a 380 P25 system... did you try loading as P25?

I did. If I hold on the system, I get "Finding Ctr Channel"... exactly what you'd get if there was nothing there at all.

Unitrunker doesn't recognize it and decode it at all either.

I think its some kind of placeholder, and that "control channel sound" is really just analogous to an empty carrier.

Interesting that it's so close to that recently-found P25 Dept. of Defense system over on 380.025...

 

[slicerwizard]

Attach a short .wav file recording taken from your discriminator tap.

 

[BVince]

Airdorn,


Let's recheck our numbers. The new DOD site is on 380.075, not 380.025 unless you have found a new channel. I see 380.075 from my QTH just fine on a yagi, but nothing on 380.725.
Are you hearing it 24/7?
What part of town are you in? I'm in G'Town and hear nothing.

v

 

[Airdorn]

Airdorn,


Let's recheck our numbers. The new DOD site is on 380.075, not 380.025 unless you have found a new channel. I see 380.075 from my QTH just fine on a yagi, but nothing on 380.725.
Are you hearing it 24/7?
What part of town are you in? I'm in G'Town and hear nothing.

v

Yes, 380.075 for that new DOD site.. I think I accidentally typed .025 somewhere for that one.

This new site, 380.725, was LOUD and CLEAR last night and this morning. But it's nowhere to be found tonight, unfortunately.

 

[BVince]

How did the signal strength of the new 380.725 compare to the 380.075? Which one was stronger or were they the same?

V

 

[Airdorn]

The 380.725 was very clear.. I got 3 bars on my 996T if I remember correctly.

That DOD site, 380.025 is weak for me.. static, random fading, etc.