Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest

[swylie]

Zone 1 - RENO SIERRA FRONT INTERAGENCY DISPATCH CENTER “MINDEN” ZONE NV03
CARSON RANGER DISTRICT 1 - DFMO WILDE
NOTE: THIS ZONE USES TONE PICK LIST. TONES ARE INDICATED IN PARENTHESES.
CHANNEL CHANNEL DESCRIPTION RX RX-CG TX TX-CG BW FCN
1 169.8750 0.0 170.4750 110.9 N CMD
2 158.7450 0.0 159.3900 123.0 N CMD
3 158.8950 0.0 156.0750 131.8 N CMD
4 169.9875 146.2 162.2375 136.5 N CMD
5 168.1750 0.0 170.6000 146.2 N CMD
6 168.2000 0.0 168.2000 156.7 N TAC
7
TOI 1-4, 9
TM 4 10-12
NDF 1-8
BLM 29 -32
TNF 167
NIFC TAC 2
158.8800 0.0 158.8800 167.9 N TAC
8 158.9400 0.0 158.9400 103.5 N TAC
9 154.2800 0.0 154.2800 100.0 N TAC
10 154.2650 0.0 154.2650 107.2 N TAC
11 154.2950 0.0 154.2950 118.8 N TAC
12 171.6750 114.8 171.6750 127.3 N TAC
13 168.3125 0.0 168.3125 114.8 N AIR
14 166.8750 0.0 166.8750 173.8 N AIR
15 167.5000 0.0 167.5000 186.2 N AIR
16
TM TAC 1
TM TAC 2
VFIRE 21
VFIRE 22
VFIRE 23
NV SOAI
SEC AG8
163.7125 0.0 163.7125 203.5 N TAC
HTNF SLIDE (1), PEAVINE (2), HAWKINS (3), RAWE (4), McCLELLAN (9)
TMFD RFD VIRGINIA PK (4), RFD PEAVINE (11), RFD SLIDE (12)
NDF PINENUT (4), NDF EAGLE (5), NDF PEAVINE (2), NDF MCCLELLAN (1)
BLM LOCAL (USE TA), BLM FAIRVIEW (13), BLM FT SAGE (14), BLM MCCLELLAN (15),BLM VIRGINIA PK (16) SQUAW (1),
BABBIT (6), ROSE (7) THESE ARE DISPATCHED OUT OF GRASS VALLEY CENTER
NIFC NATIONAL INCIDENT TACTICAL CHANNEL - LOCAL-SIMPLEX (MOBILES & HANDHELDS ONLY) TAHOE NF TMFPD
RENO GOLD - SIMPLEX
TRUCKEE MEADOWS TAC II ON TX - SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
IMUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
BLM SCENE OF ACTION TONE 13 ON TX
INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 PRIMARY AG 51
INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 SECONDARY AG 08
INTERAGENCY CALIFORNIA R5 CA02 PRI AG 14
FS HTNF FIRE TAC USE ONLY - SIMPLEX

Zone 2 - CARSON SIERRA FRONT INTERAGENCY DISPATCH CENTER “MINDEN” ZONE NV03
CARSON RANGER DISTRICT 1 - DFMO WILDE
NOTE: THIS ZONE USES TONE PICK LIST. TONES ARE INDICATED IN PARENTHESES.
CHANNEL CHANNEL DESCRIPTION RX RX-CG TX TX-CG BW FCN
1 169.8750 0.0 170.4750 110.9 N CMD
2 172.2750 0.0 164.5000 123.0 N CMD
3 169.9875 146.2 162.2375 131.8 N CMD
4 158.8950 0.0 156.0750 136.5 N CMD
5 154.4300 0.0 153.8450 146.2 N CMD
6 155.0850 100.0 155.7750 156.7 N CMD
7
TOI 1-4, 9
TOI8 LEV
BLM 29-32
NDF 1-8
CCFD 28
EASTFK 9
168.2000 0.0 168.2000 167.9 N TAC
8 171.6750 114.8 171.6750 103.5 N TAC
9 159.3450 0.0 159.3450 100.0 N TAC
10 154.2800 0.0 154.2800 107.2 N TAC
11 154.2650 0.0 154.2650 071.9 N TAC
12 154.2950 0.0 154.2950 127.3 N TAC
13 154.1450 0.0 154.1450 114.8 N TAC
14 168.3125 0.0 168.3125 173.8 N AIR
15 166.8750 0.0 166.8750 186.2 N AIR
16
NIFCTAC 2
NV SOA
RED1
VFIRE 21
VFIRE 22
VFIRE 23
PRI AG51
167.5000 0.0 167.5000 203.5 N AIR
LOCATION & TONE & REMARKS
R5 AG14
CCFD TAC
SEC AG8
HTNF SLIDE (1), PEAVINE (2), HAWKINS (3), RAWE (4), McCLELLAN (9)
HTNF LEVIATHAN (8)
BLM LOCAL (USE TA),BLM FAIRVIEW (10) BLM MCCLELLAN (15)
NDF MCCLELLAN (1), NDF PEAVINE (2), NDF SNOW VALLEY (3), NDF EAGLE (5),
CCFD COMMAND NET CHANNEL
DOUGLAS COUNTY-EAST FORK FIRE DEPT TONE (9)/ TA FOR LOCAL SIMPLEX
NIFC NATIONAL INCIDENT TACTICAL CHANNEL -SIMPLEX (MOBILES & HANDHELDS ONLY)
SCENE OF ACTION (SOA)- - LOCAL - SIMPLEX
NDF DIRECT - SIMPLEX - LOCAL
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
CARSON FIRE COMMAND
INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT PRIMARY NV03 AG 51
INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 SECONDARY AG 08
INTERAGENCY CALIFORNIA R5 CA02 AG 14

CHANNEL CHANNEL DESCRIPTION RX RX-CG TX TX-CG BW FCN
1 169.8750 0.0 170.4750 110.9 N CMD
2 172.2750 0.0 164.5000 123.0 N CMD
3 172.3750 156.7 164.9625 131.8 N CMD
4 169.9875 146.2 162.2370 136.5 N CMD
5 158.8950 0.0 156.0750 146.2 N CMD
6 155..0850 100.0 155.7750 156.7 N CMD
7
TOI 1-4, 9
TOI8 LEV
TMU123
BLM 29 -32
NDF 1-8
EASTFK9
153.8000 0.0 154.1000 167.9 N CMD
8 168.2000 0.0 168.2000 103.5 N TAC
9 171.6750 114.8 171.6750 100.0 N TAC
10 159.3450 0.0 159.3450 107.2 N TAC
11 154.2800 0.0 154.2800 114.8 N TAC
12 154.2650 0.0 154.2650 127.3 N TAC
13 154.2950 0.0 154.2950 114.8 N TAC
14 168.3125 0.0 168.3125 173.8 N AIR
15 166.8750 0.0 166.8750 186.2 N AIR
16
ALPINE10
NIFCTAC2
NV SOA
RED1
VFIRE21
VFIRE22
PRI AG51
167.5000 0.0 167.5000 203.5 N AIR
LOCATION & TONE & REMARKS
R5 AG14
VFIRE23
SEC AG8
FS HTNF SLIDE (1), PEAVINE (2), HAWKINS (3), RAWE (4), McCLELLAN (9)
FS HTNF LEVIATHAN (8)
SNOW (1), EAST (2), SCOUT (3) THESE ARE DISPATCHED OUT OF CAMINO CENTER
BLM LOCAL (USE TA),BLM FAIRVIEW (10) BLM MCCLELLAN (15)
NDF MCCLELLAN (1), NDF PEAVINE (2), NDF SNOW VALLEY (3), NDF EAGLE (5)
DOUGLAS COUNTY-EAST FORK FIRE DEPT TONE (9)/ TA FOR LOCAL SIMPLEX
ALPINE COUNTY
NIFC NATIONAL INCIDENT TACTICAL CHANNEL -SIMPLEX (MOBILES & HANDHELDS ONLY)
SCENE OF ACTION (SOA)- - LOCAL - SIMPLEX
NDF RED 1 DIRECT - SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT PRIMARY NV03 AG 51
INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 SECONDARY AG 08
INTERAGENCY CALIFORNIA R5 CA02 AG 14

 

[swylie]

The last was copied from their 2018 Radio Guide and it was a PDF file and hard to format when copied.

 

[kd7ckq]

Thanks, swylie!
I didn't see any changes either on the 2018 document I seen. Other than Sierra Front area.
So it doesn't get lost in that sea of text.
HTF uses;
NIFC Tac II 168.2000 and
HT Tac 163.7125 0.0 163.7125 203.5 N TAC
for Tac freq..

 

[kd7ckq]

Easier to read version.


Zone 1 - RENO SIERRA FRONT INTERAGENCY DISPATCH CENTER “MINDEN” ZONE NV03
CARSON RANGER DISTRICT 1 - DFMO WILDE
NOTE: THIS ZONE USES TONE PICK LIST. TONES ARE INDICATED IN PARENTHESES.
CHANNEL CHANNEL DESCRIPTION RX RX-CG TX TX-CG BW FCN
1 TOI 1-4, 9 169.8750 0.0 170.4750 110.9 N CMD
2 TM 4 10-12 158.7450 0.0 159.3900 123.0 N CMD
3 NDF 1-8 158.8950 0.0 156.0750 131.8 N CMD
4 BLM 29-32 169.9875 146.2 162.2375 136.5 N CMD
5 TNF 167 168.1750 0.0 170.6000 146.2 N CMD
6 NIFC TAC 2 168.2000 0.0 168.2000 156.7 N TAC
7 TM TAC 1 158.8800 0.0 158.8800 167.9 N TAC
8 TM TAC 2 158.9400 0.0 158.9400 103.5 N TAC
9 VFIRE 21 154.2800 0.0 154.2800 100.0 N TAC
10 VFIRE 22 154.2650 0.0 154.2650 107.2 N TAC
11 VFIRE 23 154.2950 0.0 154.2950 118.8 N TAC
12 BLM SOA 171.6750 114.8 171.6750 127.3 N TAC
13 PRI AG51 168.3125 0.0 168.3125 114.8 N AIR
14 SEC AG8 166.8750 0.0 166.8750 173.8 N AIR
15 R5 AG14 167.5000 0.0 167.5000 186.2 N AIR
16 HTF TAC 163.7125 0.0 163.7125 203.5 N TAC

1 HTNF SLIDE (1), PEAVINE (2), HAWKINS (3), RAWE (4), McCLELLAN (9)
2 TMFD RFD VIRGINIA PK (4), RFD PEAVINE (11), RFD SLIDE (12)
3 NDF PINENUT (4), NDF EAGLE (5), NDF PEAVINE (2), NDF MCCLELLAN (1)
4 BLM LOCAL (USE TA), BLM FAIRVIEW (13), BLM FT SAGE (14), BLM MCCLELLAN (15),BLM VIRGINIA PK (16) SQUAW (1),
5 BABBIT (6), ROSE (7) THESE ARE DISPATCHED OUT OF GRASS VALLEY CENTER
6 NIFC NATIONAL INCIDENT TACTICAL CHANNEL - LOCAL-SIMPLEX (MOBILES & HANDHELDS ONLY) TAHOE NF TMFPD
7 RENO GOLD - SIMPLEX
8 TRUCKEE MEADOWS TAC II ON TX - SIMPLEX
9 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
10 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
11 IMUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
12 BLM SCENE OF ACTION TONE 13 ON TX
13 INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 PRIMARY AG 51
14 INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 SECONDARY AG 08
15 INTERAGENCY CALIFORNIA R5 CA02 PRI AG 14
16 FS HTNF FIRE TAC USE ONLY - SIMPLEX

Zone 2 - CARSON SIERRA FRONT INTERAGENCY DISPATCH CENTER “MINDEN” ZONE NV03
CARSON RANGER DISTRICT 1 - DFMO WILDE
NOTE: THIS ZONE USES TONE PICK LIST. TONES ARE INDICATED IN PARENTHESES.
CHANNEL CHANNEL DESCRIPTION RX RX-CG TX TX-CG BW FCN
1 TOI 1-4, 9 169.8750 0.0 170.4750 110.9 N CMD
2 TOI8 LEV 172.2750 0.0 164.5000 123.0 N CMD
3 BLM 29-32 169.9875 146.2 162.2375 131.8 N CMD
4 NDF 1-8 158.8950 0.0 156.0750 136.5 N CMD
5 CCFD 28 154.4300 0.0 153.8450 146.2 N CMD
6 EASTFK 9 155.0850 100.0 155.7750 156.7 N CMD
7 NIFCTAC 2 168.2000 0.0 168.2000 167.9 N TAC
8 NV SOA 171.6750 114.8 171.6750 103.5 N TAC
9 RED1 159.3450 0.0 159.3450 100.0 N TAC
10 VFIRE 21 154.2800 0.0 154.2800 107.2 N TAC
11 VFIRE 22 154.2650 0.0 154.2650 071.9 N TAC
12 VFIRE 23 154.2950 0.0 154.2950 127.3 N TAC
13 CCFD TAC 154.1450 0.0 154.1450 114.8 N TAC
14 PRI AG51 168.3125 0.0 168.3125 173.8 N AIR
15 SEC AG8 166.8750 0.0 166.8750 186.2 N AIR
16 R5 AG14 167.5000 0.0 167.5000 203.5 N AIR

LOCATION & TONE & REMARKS
1 HTNF SLIDE (1), PEAVINE (2), HAWKINS (3), RAWE (4), McCLELLAN (9)
2 HTNF LEVIATHAN (8)
3 BLM LOCAL (USE TA),BLM FAIRVIEW (10) BLM MCCLELLAN (15)
4 NDF MCCLELLAN (1), NDF PEAVINE (2), NDF SNOW VALLEY (3), NDF EAGLE (5),
5 CCFD COMMAND NET CHANNEL
6 DOUGLAS COUNTY-EAST FORK FIRE DEPT TONE (9)/ TA FOR LOCAL SIMPLEX
7 NIFC NATIONAL INCIDENT TACTICAL CHANNEL -SIMPLEX (MOBILES & HANDHELDS ONLY)
8 SCENE OF ACTION (SOA)- - LOCAL - SIMPLEX
9 NDF DIRECT - SIMPLEX - LOCAL
10 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
11 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
12 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
13 CARSON FIRE COMMAND
14 INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT PRIMARY NV03 AG 51
15 INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 SECONDARY AG 08
16 INTERAGENCY CALIFORNIA R5 CA02 AG 14



CHANNEL CHANNEL DESCRIPTION RX RX-CG TX TX-CG BW FCN
1 TOI 1-4, 9 169.8750 0.0 170.4750 110.9 N CMD
2 TOI8 LEV 172.2750 0.0 164.5000 123.0 N CMD
3 TMU123 172.3750 156.7 164.9625 131.8 N CMD
4 BLM 29-32 169.9875 146.2 162.2370 136.5 N CMD
5 NDF 1-8 158.8950 0.0 156.0750 146.2 N CMD
6 EASTFK9 155.0850 100.0 155.7750 156.7 N CMD
7 APLINE10 153.8000 0.0 154.1000 167.9 N CMD
8 NIFCTAC2 168.2000 0.0 168.2000 103.5 N TAC
9 NV SOA 171.6750 114.8 171.6750 100.0 N TAC
10 RED1 159.3450 0.0 159.3450 107.2 N TAC
11 VFIRE 21 154.2800 0.0 154.2800 114.8 N TAC
12 VFIRE 22 154.2650 0.0 154.2650 127.3 N TAC
13 VFIRE23 154.2950 0.0 154.2950 114.8 N TAC
14 PRI AG51 168.3125 0.0 168.3125 173.8 N AIR
15 SEC AG8 166.8750 0.0 166.8750 186.2 N AIR
16 R5 AG14 167.5000 0.0 167.5000 203.5 N AIR

LOCATION & TONE & REMARKS
1 FS HTNF SLIDE (1), PEAVINE (2), HAWKINS (3), RAWE (4), McCLELLAN (9)
2 FS HTNF LEVIATHAN (8)
3 SNOW (1), EAST (2), SCOUT (3) THESE ARE DISPATCHED OUT OF CAMINO CENTER
4 BLM LOCAL (USE TA),BLM FAIRVIEW (10) BLM MCCLELLAN (15)
5 NDF MCCLELLAN (1), NDF PEAVINE (2), NDF SNOW VALLEY (3), NDF EAGLE (5)
6 DOUGLAS COUNTY-EAST FORK FIRE DEPT TONE (9)/ TA FOR LOCAL SIMPLEX
7 ALPINE COUNTY
8 NIFC NATIONAL INCIDENT TACTICAL CHANNEL -SIMPLEX (MOBILES & HANDHELDS ONLY)
9 SCENE OF ACTION (SOA)- - LOCAL - SIMPLEX
10 NDF RED 1 DIRECT - SIMPLEX
11 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
12 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
13 MUTUAL AID - NDEM-SIMPLEX
14 INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT PRIMARY NV03 AG 51
15 INTERAGENCY SIERRA FRONT NV03 SECONDARY AG 08
16 INTERAGENCY CALIFORNIA R5 CA02 AG 14

 

[silverspy]

I just wanted to report the following: it appears that, over the past ten years or so, it would seem that the Forest Service has been slowly phasing out the use of 169.875 as an Output (at least in the West). Out of the seven National Forests in the Western US that originally had 169.875 assigned, I’m only aware of one that is still using 169.875, and that is the Humboldt-Toiyabe, Carson Ranger District in. Now, there seems to be reports that 169.875 is not being used in the Las Vegas area anymore. One more possible frequency to maybe try down there in Southern Nevada is 172.350. If not that, then I’m still at a loss about what the new frequency is.

 

[bryan_herbert]

I've been concentrating my search on 169-174 because its been a hot spot for BLM and USFS repeater outputs for decades and I still cant find HTF. I have a feeling we will have to wait until monsoon season to find them.

 

[silverspy]

I agree. However, one idea I had was to park one radio on the BLM or NDF Net, then wait until the dispatch center either comes on the air in the morning,broadcasts the morning or afternoon report, or goes off the air in the evening; then while they are doing this, search the range that you mentioned while they are making these broadcasts, in the hope that the new HTF frequency is multicasted along with the traffic on the BLM or State Forestry Net. Hope this is of some help.

 

[bryan_herbert]

That's what I've been doing, its pretty much Scanning 101

 

[silverspy]

Interesting that you haven’t been able to find the new frequency, yet.

 

[bryan_herbert]

Im also parked on 169.875 just in case they simply changed tones

 

[silverspy]

I wanted to mention also, that the Humboldt-Toiyabe is now the last National Forest in the Western US, that I know of (of seven original), that is still using 169.875. The Carson Ranger District Of The HTF, up here in Northern Nevada and Central/Eastern California is still using 169.875; like you said, maybe they just changed tones down there. Maybe I’m incorrect, however, my theory is that the Forest Service will not be using 169.875 after this year, at least not for Repeater pairs. My logic is thus: based on the “rules” of The NTIA frequency alignment, the six other National Forests that I mentioned could have continued using 169.875, instead they discontinued using this frequency, and replaced it with an entirely different frequency. This has occurred in the last decade or so.

 

[silverspy]

I don’t know if I mentioned this previously, and they could be long shots, however, maybe also try 170.575 or 170.600 for the HTF, Las Vegas area.

 

[silverspy]

Here is the timeline for the National Forests that converted from 169.875 to another frequency, year of conversion:
Deschutes:2010
Shasta-Trinity:2015
Arapaho-Roosevelt:2016
Apache-Sitgreaves:2016
Salmon-Challis:2016
Okanogan-Wenatchee:2018

Shoshone-conversion date unknown, estimated between 2010-2012
Manti-La-Sal Fire Net-unknown if 169.875 is still in use or has been changed

The reason I mentioned this is that I wanted to illustrate a trend, that seems to show that the USFS has been migrating away from this frequency in the last eight years, or so.

 

[silverspy]

One additional thought on this subject for the evening, directed towards you folks down there in Southern Nevada. I noticed that in 2016, 169.975 was listed as the Crew Net for the HTF, Las Vegas Interagency Communications Center. 169.975 at one time was also the frequency for the HTF, Santa Rosa Ranger District, don’t know if it still is. Leviathan Peak, on the Carson RD, used to be on 169.975, however, that has been changed to 172.275. It is my understanding that, according to NTIA guidelines, Frequencies in this range are generally no longer used for simplex communications, so maybe the HTF, Spring Mountain NRA has retained 169.975, and is using it for another purpose, or maybe not. Just thought I would throw out a few more frequency possibilities and ideas, to help the folks in Southern Nevada solve the mystery of what happened to the HTF on 169.875 down there.

 

[bdillin]

Anyone figure out whats going on with the wildland folks?

 

[silverspy]

Confirmed that Leviathan Peak, up here on the Carson RD, is definitely on 172.275. I recently heard traffic on that frequency.

 

[bdillin]

LVICC on 172.275 this morning.

 

[bryan_herbert]

Im hearing it too. Good signal, no tone on the output.

 

[silverspy]

My guess is that the rest of the Carson Ranger District will also be changed to 172.275, however I am not absolutely certain, since Leviathan historically was always on 169.975, not 169.875. The rest of the Carson RD, up here in Northwestern Nevada/Eastern/Central California, is still on 169.875. The Bridgeport RD used to also be on 169.875, but was changed to 170.525 last year.

 

[Hooligan]

LVICC on 172.275 this morning.

I heard a user ID it (channel/repeater) as "Mt Charleston."