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I have an SDS 200 and I cant get Lancaster Texas PD. I live in Cedar Hill Texas. Please help.
 

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I have an SDS 200 and I cant get Lancaster Texas PD. I live in Cedar Hill Texas. Please help.
Have you purchased and installed the NXDN upgrade for your scanner?
 

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See this thread

As well as a thread from last September on the same issue.

The OP does have the NXDN upgrade, and has been able to monitor Lancaster with his TRX-2, but not the SDS200.
 

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The TRX-2 does not trunk NXDN (same with DMR) so its monitoring the individual channels.
The SDS need to have the correct LCN for it to trunk properly. Or LSN.
 

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So how do I do that ?
You can run the LCN Finder on LTR, DMR, EDACS, & NXDN systems. It is one of the options under the "Analyze" menu in the SDS200 (also the SDS100, 436HP & 536HP).

However, the LCNs in the database for the Lancaster system are correct. I ran, and re-ran (for validation), the LCN Finder on the system when I was first trying to document it.
 

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You can run the LCN Finder on LTR, DMR, EDACS, & NXDN systems. It is one of the options under the "Analyze" menu in the SDS200 (also the SDS100, 436HP & 536HP).

However, the LCNs in the database for the Lancaster system are correct. I ran, and re-ran (for validation), the LCN Finder on the system when I was first trying to document it.
I am doing that know. But the freq does not move.
 

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You can run the LCN Finder on LTR, DMR, EDACS, & NXDN systems. It is one of the options under the "Analyze" menu in the SDS200 (also the SDS100, 436HP & 536HP).

However, the LCNs in the database for the Lancaster system are correct. I ran, and re-ran (for validation), the LCN Finder on the system when I was first trying to document it.
It is looking for the freq it says 0/5 found
 

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I am doing that know. But the freq does not move.
Lancaster can be very slow, not a lot of activity at times. I let mine run for over a day to finally nail down all 5 frequencies. (Technically, NXDN calls them Channel ID Numbers, not LCNs, but the scanner uses the LCN Finder to sort them out.
 

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It is looking for the freq it says 0/5 found
I think interference is still masking your reception. Just flipped my SDS200 into LCN Finder mode on the Lancaster system & it found the first one in literally seconds. I also have a good signal. What signal strength does your scanner show?
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Lancaster can be very slow, not a lot of activity at times. I let mine run for over a day to finally nail down all 5 frequencies. (Technically, NXDN calls them Channel ID Numbers, not LCNs, but the scanner uses the LCN Finder to sort them out.
okay thank alot for your help.
I think interference is still masking your reception. Just flipped my SDS200 into LCN Finder mode on the Lancaster system & it found the first one in literally seconds. I also have a good signal. What signal strength does your scanner show?
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It is at -112dbm
 

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I got one so far !!
One is all I've gotten so far. The Finder needs enough activity for the system to use the various frequencies, to establish the LCN or Channel IDs. If the system is super busy, it can't really sort them out, but if too slow, there's not enough usage to provide the information it needs. Lancaster is one of the smaller suburbs, and don't have that many units in the field (for the PD). On the Fire/EMS side, they may go several hours without a call, but then ramp up to very busy for a working structure fire.
(Update- just flipped to 2 found).
 

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One is all I've gotten so far. The Finder needs enough activity for the system to use the various frequencies, to establish the LCN or Channel IDs. If the system is super busy, it can't really sort them out, but if too slow, there's not enough usage to provide the information it needs. Lancaster is one of the smaller suburbs, and don't have that many units in the field (for the PD). On the Fire/EMS side, they may go several hours without a call, but then ramp up to very busy for a working structure fire.
(Update- just flipped to 2 found).
okay how do I get the freq now that I found one?
 

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One is all I've gotten so far. The Finder needs enough activity for the system to use the various frequencies, to establish the LCN or Channel IDs. If the system is super busy, it can't really sort them out, but if too slow, there's not enough usage to provide the information it needs. Lancaster is one of the smaller suburbs, and don't have that many units in the field (for the PD). On the Fire/EMS side, they may go several hours without a call, but then ramp up to very busy for a working structure fire.
(Update- just flipped to 2 found).
One is all I've gotten so far. The Finder needs enough activity for the system to use the various frequencies, to establish the LCN or Channel IDs. If the system is super busy, it can't really sort them out, but if too slow, there's not enough usage to provide the information it needs. Lancaster is one of the smaller suburbs, and don't have that many units in the field (for the PD). On the Fire/EMS side, they may go several hours without a call, but then ramp up to very busy for a working structure fire.
(Update- just flipped to 2 found).
I am up to 4/5 so far.
 

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I am up to 4/5 so far.
I'm sitting at 4 of 5 right now as well.
okay how do I get the freq now that I found one?
Look at the display while it is running the LCN Finder.
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Press the System key to resume scanning. Don't force it back to scanning by hitting the Avoid key, and don't power cycle the scanner. Unless you resume scanning correctly (by hitting the System key), you may lose whatever results it found. When you press System to Exit, you'll get a prompt asking if you want to save the results. You do.

The easiest, and fastest, way to review results is to read the scanner back into Sentinel. Once you do that, you can look at the system & see what values were found for each frequency.

On the scanner itself, you'd follow these steps:
Press Menu
Select Manage Favorites
Select the Favorites list which includes the Lancaster system
On the screen for the list, select Review/Edit system
Select the Lancaster system
On the next screen, select Edit Site
Select the Lancaster site
On the next menu, select Set Frequencies
Select one of the frequencies by pressing E (enter)
On the next screen, you could edit the frequency itself, which is not necessary
Press E again
That will take you to a page showing the LCN that was found
See if the LCN matches the database entry
Press Enter to get back to your list of frequencies & check the next one using the steps above. Note if any differ from the database.

Note that whenever you run the LCN Finder, it resets all the frequencies back to 0 (zero) as if the LCN is unknown. So, if you had 3, or 4, out of five, then re-ran the utility, it basically starts all over again. It's not going to remember that, say, 1, 2, & 4 were found. All will be defaulted back to unknown.
 

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FYI, -112dbm is close to cutting off due to no reception. Basically its a very weak signal and because its a digital channel you may have problems with decoding it.
 

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I'm sitting at 4 of 5 right now as well.

Look at the display while it is running the LCN Finder.
View attachment 97854
Press the System key to resume scanning. Don't force it back to scanning by hitting the Avoid key, and don't power cycle the scanner. Unless you resume scanning correctly (by hitting the System key), you may lose whatever results it found. When you press System to Exit, you'll get a prompt asking if you want to save the results. You do.

The easiest, and fastest, way to review results is to read the scanner back into Sentinel. Once you do that, you can look at the system & see what values were found for each frequency.

On the scanner itself, you'd follow these steps:
Press Menu
Select Manage Favorites
Select the Favorites list which includes the Lancaster system
On the screen for the list, select Review/Edit system
Select the Lancaster system
On the next screen, select Edit Site
Select the Lancaster site
On the next menu, select Set Frequencies
Select one of the frequencies by pressing E (enter)
On the next screen, you could edit the frequency itself, which is not necessary
Press E again
That will take you to a page showing the LCN that was found
See if the LCN matches the database entry
Press Enter to get back to your list of frequencies & check the next one using the steps above. Note if any differ from the database.

Note that whenever you run the LCN Finder, it resets all the frequencies back to 0 (zero) as if the LCN is unknown. So, if you had 3, or 4, out of five, then re-ran the utility, it basically starts all over again. It's not going to remember that, say, 1, 2, & 4 were found. All will be defaulted back to unknown.
I am still lost. Maybe I could give you my e mail address. Jhl1194@yahoo.com
 

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I am still lost. Maybe I could give you my e mail address. Jhl1194@yahoo.com
What software are you using to program your SDS200? Sentinel only? ProScan? I don't have ARC536, so can't be much specific help for using that program.

My main desktop PC, which has a lot of things on it, is down at the moment. Ordered several parts to get it back in shape.

You can always send me a message using the Conversation part of this forum. Click on the small envelope icon in the upper right corner of the screen.
 
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