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I need something to hook up my R8500, SDS200 and possibly a handheld receiver. It will be hooked up to my discone. Have everything in place but this final piece. Whatever it’s called, I need a good one. Coax coming to the house is LMR 400 to RG58 snaked inside the house.
 

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From what’s been posted in the past on this subject, stritsberg seems to be good. But which one? 4 port should do. The MC 204 seems to be the range I want. Prcguy, please chime in.
 
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And that RG58 is going to cost you signal. It's fine for HF, but not so good as you go higher in frequency....Mike
 

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For many people the Stridsberg MCA204 series does an ok job. Your experience will depend on if there are really high level signals in the area which can overload the preamp in the multicoupler. I would definitely use a good FM trap filter before the multicoupler and if you have an SDR receiver you can use the spectral display to see if there are any other huge signals to worry about.

From what’s been posted in the past on this subject, stritsberg seems to be good. But which one? 4 port should do. The MC 204 seems to be the range I want. Prcguy, please chime in.
 

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MCA240 lists for multiple receivers whereas the 204 is for multiple antennas to one receiver. Am I reading it right? No SDR receivers to check.
 

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You can also roll your own multicoupler and end up with a far superior unit for much less than a Stridsberg. Here are components I bought off eBay used surplus. The amplifier is a MiniCircuits ZFL-1010 that covers 50-1,000MHz with 10dB gain, 3.5dB noise figure, 1dB compression of around 30dBm or 1 watt. IP3 is rated at 46dBm. The noise figure is the same as what Stridsberg uses however the preamp in their MCA204 series has a 1dB compression point of 17dBm or 13dB lower than the MiniCircuits (that's a huge difference!) and the MCA204 IP3 is 32dBm or 14dB worse than the MiniCircuits. The ZFL-1010 will put out a clean spectrum of signals all day long in areas where the Stridsberg will produce lots of IMD and ghost signals throughout the bands.

I picked up several ZFL-1010 amps for about $50 each, some new old stock and maybe some used. The Anzac 4-way divider cost me about $20 and there you have a basic super high level 4 output VHF/UHF multicoupler for about $70 that will run circles around anything Stridesberg ever thought of making.

For about $25-$30 more you can add an HP Limiter that will protect the preamp up to 10 watts input for a brief period. Also pictured is a MiniCircuits 8-way divider that covers 10-1,000MHz and that ran me about $35 off eBay. With the 4-way divider you will have about 3dB gain per output port and with the 8-way you will be near zero gain and maybe up to 1dB loss per port. There is also the 20dB gain version of this amp that would easily feed a 16-way divider and you would have to add a small amount of attenuation to leave you with about 2dB gain which is nice.

Then there is the FM trap filter and the MiniCircuits pictured is the best I have personally found. I've purchased them new but this one was an eBay find that was cheap, forget the price but it was really good.


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Roll my own is a hoot. I suck in that field. Am stuck paying for completed electronic stuff. That’s why I research the crap out of anything electronic to make sure my money is well spent. Thanks for the info though.
 

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What prcguy showed there isn't exactly 'roll your own'. Just get the right connector adapters and stick them together. No soldering (except possibly the power to the amplifier, but alligator clips work temporarily) - and save the difference $$ for another antenna or something. Or take a lady to dinner. Oh yeah, you'll need a $20 power source for the amp.
 

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I guess you could consider the Astron 'too strong' in one sense: According to the spec sheet the surplus amp mentioned above works on 13V MAX, 12V nominal, and if your Astron puts out 13.8 - 14V as it should, you probably don't want to put that in to the amp. I don't have an amp like that at this time, but I've learned the hard way not to be casual about a max voltage spec.

The surplus amp draws a little over 1/2 amp, and there are numerous small power supplies available that handle that kind of current. You want a regulated, linear supply. Switchers make noise, and unregulated, well, personally I like knowing that the supply voltages to my stuff doesn't move around too much.

You would have to solder wires between the supply and the amp, most likely - and if that's really an obstacle and there isn't anyone you know locally that might do that for you, then it goes back to a store-bought solution, probably. The Stridsberg multicoupler wants 12V, too, but only 85 mA - and you'd still have to have the right power connector - so it's just slightly less complicated.

Or you could accept about 6.5 dB loss, which unless you're trying to get weathersat imagery or radiosondes, or non-repeated comms from two counties away, something like that might not be a show stopper. You'd just get a nice passive splitter similar to what's in prcguy's pic. Of course there may be someone who will tear my head off for mentioning such a thing.
 
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