Icom IC92AD APRS HELP?

[idle00955]

I got the gps for my icom ic92ad HT. how do i get the aprs to becon out and show me on the aprs.fi website? i tired to follow the manual but it doesnt help me at all. What am I missing here? If someone can provide me details will be great.

Thanks

 

[KE5MC]

Only a little help?

I really have not fully addressed using my 92 with GPS speaker/mic. Matter of fact I took the mic to Ham Comm in Plano hoping to sell it. Anyway... My take on APRS with the 92 is that the it is different than say using a VX8 or D710. Position data goes to the dstar repeater and the repeater is responsible for handling the data not the equipment on 144.39 digirepeaters and the associated IGates. Additional the repeater has to be running the application that handles the APRS data to get it in the APRS internet database.

The 92 has GPS and GPS-A mode and it is not clear what the difference is. I am sure it is on the internet to find I just have not been motivated to do so.

Hopefully someone will come along with a "Cliff Notes" version to help us both.

KE5VYU, Mike

 

[D00D]

I don't believe the 92 does APRS. One of my ARES members brought me his to look into this and from what I gathered from the manual is that there is no APRS encoder. Yes, it has a GPS but that's about it. It does DPRS which is a D-Star variant but you have to be able to hit a D-Star repeater. In our area we don't quite have the coverage so DPRS isn't very helpful at the moment.

 

[steveh552]

The 92A/AD does not have the TNC that is needed for the APRS. DPRS is sorta the same as APRS, but it only sends your position when you are talking, not like APRS where it is every so often. The TNC is needed for encoding and decoding the digital signals sent with APRS.

That is my understanding and may not be total fact, I am far from an expert on this stuff.

 

[rwwheat]

I got the gps for my icom ic92ad HT. how do i get the aprs to becon out and show me on the aprs.fi website? i tired to follow the manual but it doesnt help me at all. What am I missing here? If someone can provide me details will be great.

Thanks

The following link may provide some insight to configuring your IC-92AD .

D-PRS

73,

Richard
WB5CCO

 

[newsphotog]

The 92A/AD does not have the TNC that is needed for the APRS. DPRS is sorta the same as APRS, but it only sends your position when you are talking, not like APRS where it is every so often. The TNC is needed for encoding and decoding the digital signals sent with APRS.

That is my understanding and may not be total fact, I am far from an expert on this stuff.

Dead-on, except you can set a timed interval for beacons as well, but there is no SmartBeaconing like with Kenwood or Yaesu products.

 

[clayirving]

The 92A/AD does not have the TNC that is needed for the APRS. DPRS is sorta the same as APRS, but it only sends your position when you are talking, not like APRS where it is every so often. The TNC is needed for encoding and decoding the digital signals sent with APRS.

That is my understanding and may not be total fact, I am far from an expert on this stuff.

The statement above is not true. Press the MENU button on the IC-92AD, select DV SET MODE, select GPS AUTO TX, and specify an interval. The values are: OFF, 5SEC, 10SEC, 30SEC, 1MIN, 3MIN, 5MIN, 10MIN, 30MIN.

A TNC is not needed if the repeater gateway is running D-PRS. Your location will display just fine on APRS maps.

 

[AK9R]

The fact remains that the IC-92AD does not have a TNC and is not an APRS radio like the Kenwood TM-D7, soon-to-be-released Kenwood TM-D72, and Yaesu VX-8R/8DR/8GR. The IC-92AD cannot encode/transmit APRS packets or receive/decode APRS packets unless it is connected to an external TNC.

The IC-92AD can transmit and receive position data using the D-STAR digital format as part of the D-STAR data stream. There are gateways that pull these position reporrts out of the D-STAR digital domain and stuff them into the APRS-IS network of servers. This is known as DPRS which is a data conversion specification, not a position reporting protocol.

Unless you have a local APRS I-gate that looks for local "DPRS" position reports in the APRS-IS database and transmits them on RF as APRS position reports, I don't believe you will be able to see "DPRS" position reports on your local APRS RF channel. If you have an Internet connection, you will be able to see these "DPRS" position reports on a map. But APRS is about local, tactical information over a local RF network, not just vehicle tracking and mapping tools via the Internet.

 

[clayirving]

The fact remains that the IC-92AD does not have a TNC and is not an APRS radio like the Kenwood TM-D7, soon-to-be-released Kenwood TM-D72, and Yaesu VX-8R/8DR/8GR. The IC-92AD cannot encode/transmit APRS packets or receive/decode APRS packets unless it is connected to an external TNC.

The IC-92AD can transmit and receive position data using the D-STAR digital format as part of the D-STAR data stream. There are gateways that pull these position reporrts out of the D-STAR digital domain and stuff them into the APRS-IS network of servers. This is known as DPRS which is a data conversion specification, not a position reporting protocol.

Unless you have a local APRS I-gate that looks for local "DPRS" position reports in the APRS-IS database and transmits them on RF as APRS position reports, I don't believe you will be able to see "DPRS" position reports on your local APRS RF channel. If you have an Internet connection, you will be able to see these "DPRS" position reports on a map. But APRS is about local, tactical information over a local RF network, not just vehicle tracking and mapping tools via the Internet.

I was responding to, The IC-92AD "...only sends your position when you are talking, not like APRS where it is every so often. The TNC is needed for encoding and decoding the digital signals sent with APRS." The IC-92AD can automatically send position data at specified intervals, and it does not need a TNC to encode and decode digital data. However, you are absolutely correct that position reports and the full functionality of APRS are not the same!

 

[timgungoll]

I am thinking I can connect my IC-92AD to the TNC-X with digipeater kit I am building by using the OPC-1799 connection cable. Has anyone tried this or used a different TNC with this radio? Thanks.

Tim Gungoll
KF5OWX