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Was looking to purchase the SDS-200, but I am worried it will not pick up the Illinois Starcom bands. Does anyone have experience listening to Illinois starcom and what scanners will pick it up.
 

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Was looking to purchase the SDS-200, but I am worried it will not pick up the Illinois Starcom bands. Does anyone have experience listening to Illinois starcom and what scanners will pick it up.
SDS100 handheld and SDS200 base/mobile are the best scanners for the job.
 

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Those mentioned do. SDS100/200. BUT I found that while mobile, Unication G4/G5s were superior to all things out there since they're professional radios made for that very kind of system. I drove IL 12 counties and 9 counties on two different trips with WS1080, Pro96 and G5 Unication Pager. Unication was seamless and perfect with the default antenna sitting in the drink cup holder. The scanners were woeful and terrible on that Statewide Simulcast system. I know the SDS100/200 are good on such systems ... but I've seen YouTube videos showing the superior range of the G4/G5s. You might want to review Youtube for videos and information too.
 

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I have a SDS100 and a Unication G5. The Unication pagers are only designed for monitoring a single system in a limited geographic area. They are much more difficult to program, cannot scan multiple systems, and lack Uniden's location control feature that uses GPS to turn sites on and off automatically as you travel. The Unication receiver is better, but the Uniden is good enough to work reliably inside a system's intended coverage area.

If you will only ever use the receiver to monitor one system within one or two counties, Unication is a good option. But if you want to monitor multiple systems, or monitor while traveling, a SDS100 is a much better choice.
 

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Those mentioned do. SDS100/200. BUT I found that while mobile, Unication G4/G5s were superior to all things out there since they're professional radios made for that very kind of system. I drove IL 12 counties and 9 counties on two different trips with WS1080, Pro96 and G5 Unication Pager. Unication was seamless and perfect with the default antenna sitting in the drink cup holder. The scanners were woeful and terrible on that Statewide Simulcast system. I know the SDS100/200 are good on such systems ... but I've seen YouTube videos showing the superior range of the G4/G5s. You might want to review Youtube for videos and information too.

I've been reading up on the G5, and it's my understanding they can only scan 1 site at a time? Do you load all the control frequencies in and as they lose the decode, it goes to the next?
 

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I've been reading up on the G5, and it's my understanding they can only scan 1 site at a time? Do you load all the control frequencies in and as they lose the decode, it goes to the next?
You can program multiple sites, but the G5 will lock on to the first one it finds, and stay locked on to it until it loses signal completely. If you switch systems, it takes 5-10 seconds to lock on to a site. You also have no way to override which site the G5 chooses to monitor, nor is there any way (other than a really kludgy experimental feature in the current beta) to scan a rotation of sites. It does have a more sensitive receiver than the SDS100, but that advantage is crippled to some extent be Unication's odd decision to wire the UHF/VHF receiver (you can have one, but not both) to an internal antenna, rather than using the the SMA connector and an external antenna like they do for 800. And it's programming design doesn't allow dozens or hundreds of systems to be programmed, and selectively scanned by their proximity to your location. Except for the experimental beta scan kludge, switching systems requires manually turning an 8-position knob switch to a different setting.

If you're monitoring an 800MHz system, the G5 can do some insane stuff, I can monitor the Winchester, VA citywide 800 system from Hagerstown, MD with a BNC adapter and Remtronix 800, as long as I'm on high ground. By comparison, the SDS loses that system about 5 miles into WV going north on 81. But the G5 doesn't pick up VA-STARS with its internal antenna much better than the SDS100 does with a Diamond RH77CA. For general scanning, the SDS100 is far better, despite its less sensitive receiver. The SDS100 is good enough to reliably receive systems inside their intended coverage area, and GPS + Location Control beats pretty much everything else for mobile scanning. It also only needs 1-2 seconds to scan a trunked site, while a G5 needs more like 10.

You could think of the G5 as a sniper rifle to the SDS as a shotgun. The G5 is a special-purpose tool for hitting a specific target from long range if need be, while the SDS100 can cover a whole range of stuff, as long as you get a little closer.
 

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You can program multiple sites, but the G5 will lock on to the first one it finds, and stay locked on to it until it loses signal completely. If you switch systems, it takes 5-10 seconds to lock on to a site. You also have no way to override which site the G5 chooses to monitor, nor is there any way (other than a really kludgy experimental feature in the current beta) to scan a rotation of sites. It does have a more sensitive receiver than the SDS100, but that advantage is crippled to some extent be Unication's odd decision to wire the UHF/VHF receiver (you can have one, but not both) to an internal antenna, rather than using the the SMA connector and an external antenna like they do for 800. And it's programming design doesn't allow dozens or hundreds of systems to be programmed, and selectively scanned by their proximity to your location. Except for the experimental beta scan kludge, switching systems requires manually turning an 8-position knob switch to a different setting.

If you're monitoring an 800MHz system, the G5 can do some insane stuff, I can monitor the Winchester, VA citywide 800 system from Hagerstown, MD with a BNC adapter and Remtronix 800, as long as I'm on high ground. By comparison, the SDS loses that system about 5 miles into WV going north on 81. But the G5 doesn't pick up VA-STARS with its internal antenna much better than the SDS100 does with a Diamond RH77CA. For general scanning, the SDS100 is far better, despite its less sensitive receiver. The SDS100 is good enough to reliably receive systems inside their intended coverage area, and GPS + Location Control beats pretty much everything else for mobile scanning. It also only needs 1-2 seconds to scan a trunked site, while a G5 needs more like 10.

You could think of the G5 as a sniper rifle to the SDS as a shotgun. The G5 is a special-purpose tool for hitting a specific target from long range if need be, while the SDS100 can cover a whole range of stuff, as long as you get a little closer.

Good explanation, but I won't derail this thread since it's about Uniden scanners.
 
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