Illinois State Rep Dan Brady introduces anti-rebroadcast legislation

[kd8ati]

It makes no difference whether that message is broadcast over a radio system, or spoken loudly in a crowded room. If I shout out state secrets, a law saying that passers-by can't listen doesn't defend my actions. The fault lies with the originator, not the listener.

I love that comment!!! That would mean the government taking responsibility. God help us if that were to ever happen. If IL is so concerned about their precious joe blow traffic stops and "where do you want to met for coffee" calls then perhaps they need to encrypt. I would love to see them spend the money to do that. One would only hope that the local media and WGN would take that story and run with it.

People tell me not to be concerned about my Mass and RI feeds going through Shoutcast servers in Chicago.....well, the way the interpretations are being extrapolated by his office, it will be illegal to broadcast a public safety agency through a computer (server) that is physically located in Illinois by next week. This is what I'm getting from Dan Brady's quotes.

I would not be concerned. I doubt IL would win many cases of state police going across the country to pick up people broadcasting a NYC or LA feed that happens to be routed through an IL server. If you think im going to dig deep enough to see what the physical location is of the servers where my local Detroit area stream goes through, you are wrong.
This is for Brady and the IL lawmakers if this goes through. (_|_)

 

[Citywide173]

I would not be concerned. I doubt IL would win many cases of state police going across the country to pick up people broadcasting a NYC or LA feed that happens to be routed through an IL server. If you think im going to dig deep enough to see what the physical location is of the servers where my local Detroit area stream goes through, you are wrong.
This is for Brady and the IL lawmakers if this goes through. (_|_)

That wasn't my intent....I'm not concerned about me, but how many businesses in IL would be affected....it has the potential to be detrimental to businesses in IL.

 

[KIKINWING]

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Citywide173
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Not sure if I'm the Know it all, but I do see a lot happening here....
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Ed,

While clearly you know allot, The fact is much clearer that you dont know it all!!!! (LOL)

 

[N_Jay]

Be careful certain "know it all posters" get really upset if you have the temerity to quote dead white guys!!!!!

Well, I would guess you may be referring to me, but I would double check that you are not mistaken.

noun Informal:
One who claims to know everything and rejects advice or information from others.

So it can't be me, because;

I never have claimed to know everything.
Actually I am quite sure I don't know more then I know.

AND,

I very rarely reject advice or information from others.

However I must add, that I do reject both poorly formed opinions (masquerading as advice) and misinformation (no matter how badly the be wants it to be true).

 

[appalachianscanner]

News Stories are just breaking, sadly none of them describe the nature of the bill correctly and its biggest impact.....hit up those comments

JG-TC.com > News > Area police mixed on proposed scanner bill

Critics worry bill would hamper use of police scanners

 

[AZScanner]

This bill is still pure crap, even with Brady's "explanations". Like a criminal hell bent on breaking the law is going to care. Like a sleeper cell in IL wouldn't set up a private feed for analysis back home if they so desired. Ridiculous.

Instead, let's beef up the punishment for anyone found committing a crime with a scanner in their possession. Automatic 1 year in jail tacked on, and make it a felony. Now, THAT would make sense, unlike of this steaming pile of garbage that will essentially make a criminal out of anyone who provides an online feed.

-AZ

 

[Squad10]

The State of Illinois likes IL sleeper cells, they want the taxpayers to sleep while they fleece them of liberty and cash.

 

[AZScanner]

The State of Illinois likes IL sleeper cells, they want the taxpayers to sleep while they fleece them of liberty and cash.

Heh. That's certainly not exclusive to just Illinois.

-AZ

 

[N_Jay]

This bill is . . . pure crap,

Aren't they all?

 

[KIKINWING]

If anyone thinks I, they, you or us are just paranoid, think again.

Critical Infrastructure Protection and the Endangering of Civil Liberties

 

[N_Jay]

If anyone thinks I, they, you or us are just paranoid, think again.

Critical Infrastructure Protection and the Endangering of Civil Liberties

Just because you found a group as paranoid as you are, does not mean you are not unreasonably paranoid.

 

[KIKINWING]

Just because you found a group as paranoid as you are, does not mean you are not unreasonably paranoid.

The day you become paranoid, which should be two days after you are latently forced into being aware, is the day I regrettably say "I told you so..."

P.S. Groups as paranoid as I am accused, start with the framers; They were too called unreasonable.

 

[N_Jay]

The day you become paranoid, which should be two days after you are latently forced into being aware, is the day I regrettably say "I told you so..."

P.S. Groups as paranoid as I am accused, start with the framers; They were too called unreasonable.

You hold yourself in high regard.

 

[Squad10]

I'll happily trade HB5194 for HB6249.

 

[RoninJoliet]

Here in ILL the Starcom Digital 700/800 system sounds better than ever, what ever they pass i don't think will adversely effect what we normal scanner listeners hear....There was a rule of thumb that "DVP-ENC" effected the range of signals i thought, i maybe wrong but one thing they don't want and that is poor range of signals....They may try to monitor "streaming on the internet but they should spend there money and time chasing down fellons....I also think this is a Motorola gimmic cause they most likely spelled out to the users the usual balony="No one will be able to hear you" if you sign on to this system...When my city years back went to 800 single channel , then trunking i kept telling my cop friends "well, i still hear you" and there face would get "BEAT" red.....

 

[Squad10]

Here in ILL the Starcom Digital 700/800 system sounds better than ever, what ever they pass i don't think will adversely effect what we normal scanner listeners hear....There was a rule of thumb that "DVP-ENC" effected the range of signals i thought, i maybe wrong but one thing they don't want and that is poor range of signals...

Not only did SecureNet degrade the range of signals, when Postal Inspection bought 2000 SecureNet equipped radios without clear cards and couldn't communicate, PI started to submit warranty repair bills to Motorola, Motorola shipped 2000 cards real quick.

P25 encryption works really well.

 

[jobes]

and I'll raise you HB6249

I'll happily trade HB5194 for HB6249.

 

[Squad10]

and I'll raise you HB6249

And the winning hand goes to HB6249. Congratulations IL!

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

 

[KIKINWING]

News Stories are just breaking, sadly none of them describe the nature of the bill correctly and its biggest impact.....hit up those comments

JG-TC.com > News > Area police mixed on proposed scanner bill

Critics worry bill would hamper use of police scanners

It just dawned on me, and I am uncertain wether anyone has touched on it. But the possible motivation for this legislation would be to circumvent the emerging popularity of GPS systems ancillary uses such as notifying motorists the current location of speed traps, traffic cameras, etc...etc... Just another meter maid on steroids saving you from yourself, mam; God forbid someone woud try to circumvent a 200.00 ticket.

Damn the double nickles

 

[N_Jay]

It just dawned on me, and I am uncertain wether anyone has touched on it. But the possible motivation for this legislation would be to circumvent the emerging popularity of GPS systems ancillary uses such as notifying motorists the current location of speed traps, traffic cameras, etc...etc... Just another meter maid on steroids saving you from yourself, mam; God forbid someone woud try to circumvent a 200.00 ticket.

Damn the double nickles

Your kidding right?

I understand you don't like the bill, and I understand that you will thunk up just ab out any excuse against it.

But really.

Next thing you will be telling us how much this will cost because every police agency in the state will need to have a signed copy of permission from every other agency just so they don't accidentally become criminals. :roll: