Interesting Anytone Termn-8r info

[KT0DD]

Ok I'll bite but I know now Im being trolled.

No amateur licensee has any authority issued to them to directly act as a policing entity on behalf of the FCC or any other legal agency. We have the Official Observer service (a crock that gets abused) and any amateur is free to report violations to the FCC, but it could be dangerous to an individual to take matters into their own hands. I've heard of fights, property damage etc. (a tower pulled over by vigilante hams against a jammer or CB'er) guns being pulled etc. Self-Policing has it's limits and proper procedures.

 

[12dbsinad]

I agree everyone here is entitled to their OPINION and point of view...and I agree to disagree with several on here.

I await the outcome of the re-application of the TERMN-8R. 73.

Well you have to a least agree on one thing, their illegal and shouldn't be sold until PROPER certifications are approved. That certainly isn't anyone's view or opinion, that's the law. The radio cop's as you refer to them, did not make this rule.

Play by the book or don't sell the product. You don't see the other major radio companies pulling this stunt do you? Anytone is no different.

 

[Titan520]

Play by the book or don't sell the product. You don't see the other major radio companies pulling this stunt do you?

My exact point. I hope multi use devices pan out, but this isnt the way to do it.

Anytone is no different.

While i am in no way afilliated with Anytone (Qixiang). They have a number of times said to me personally, during our correspondance, that they are in no way afilliated with AnyToneTechs business beyond supplying them with radios. From what i gather, it sounds like they regret getting in bed with ATT.

 

[FrankNY]

Just so I can come back and tell you I told you so later, my prediction is there is nothing being resubmitted.

Anytone tech will try to continue to sell these until he's cleaned out his stock and that will be the end of the 8R series. In the mean time he will try to buy himself time by posting additional promises and fables on facebook.

I have it on good information that the FCC is trying to get these radios off the market (which may include other brands and models) and the likelihood of any more of these squeaking through the cracks doesn't seem too great now that the OET is aware of what is going on. I would be on the look out for more "Dear Colleagues..." letters.

If any of you are holding your breath for "we are updating our certificates"- (Anytone Tech on facebook), I would recommend having a large supply of oxygen tanks on standby. You're gonna need them.

That's my prediction. If I'm wrong, now you can make me look like the wrong one. On rare occasions I am wrong but that is my prediction.

With regard to the TERMN-8R and OBLTR-8R radios, it's now May 28 and the page at https://anytonetech.com/purchase on the AnyTone Tech Web site has been changed from "Back Online May 27th" to "Coming Soon".

According to the information provided by my browser, the page was last modified "Wednesday, May 27, 2015 00:45:35".

So the saga would seem to continue.

Frank.

 

[rapidcharger]

oh What a surprise

sent via tapatalk on a mobile device.

 

[MTS2000des]

oh What a surprise

Not really. Just more fables from a storyteller.

I hear the whispering winds are a blowing from DC, I would not hold my breath for these to come back anytime soon.

 

[Titan520]

I think this guy ought to leave the radio business and go write fiction instead. He could be a new Stephen King.

 

[prcguy]

I think he'll be back since there is probably a lot of $$ invested in trying to market these things and he will resubmit radios for testing and do whatever to salvage things.
prcguy

 

[rapidcharger]

I guess finding a testing lab for your frequency agile part 90 radios isn't as easy as it once was.

 

[KD8DVR]

Did A.T. Lose ALL their certifications?

With regard to the TERMN-8R and OBLTR-8R radios, it's now May 28 and the page at https://anytonetech.com/purchase on the AnyTone Tech Web site has been changed from "Back Online May 27th" to "Coming Soon".

According to the information provided by my browser, the page was last modified "Wednesday, May 27, 2015 00:45:35".

So the saga would seem to continue.

Frank.

Has anyone been able to locate the FCC info on the OTHER two radios AnytoneTech sells? I tried looking them up and they aren't there anymore either.... Did they load ALL their certifications?

 

[nd5y]

Has anyone been able to locate the FCC info on the OTHER two radios AnytoneTech sells? I tried looking them up and they aren't there anymore either.... Did they load ALL their certifications?

You must be doing something wrong. The other grants for Qixiang Electron Science & Technology Co., Ltd. are still there.

 

[KD8DVR]

You must be doing something wrong. The other grants for Qixiang Electron Science & Technology Co., Ltd. are still there.

Hmmm.... ok. Thanks.

 

[Project25_MASTR]

With regard to the TERMN-8R and OBLTR-8R radios, it's now May 28 and the page at https://anytonetech.com/purchase on the AnyTone Tech Web site has been changed from "Back Online May 27th" to "Coming Soon".

According to the information provided by my browser, the page was last modified "Wednesday, May 27, 2015 00:45:35".

So the saga would seem to continue.

Frank.

I actually checked the grant status last night just at random (wasn't thinking about the date). Still not up.

 

[prcguy]

The programming software seems to allow you to block out the VFO mode so its a channelized radio with no way to program via the keypad. Why would that be a problem for part 90?
prcguy

I guess finding a testing lab for your frequency agile part 90 radios isn't as easy as it once was.

 

[toastycookies]

The programming software seems to allow you to block out the VFO mode so its a channelized radio with no way to program via the keypad. Why would that be a problem for part 90?
prcguy

wouldn't they have to come from factory with that as default?

maybe a simple firmware change could fix this maybe not.

this only thing for sure is that anytonetech is not saying anything about it.

 

[MTS2000des]

this only thing for sure is that anytonetech is not saying anything about it.

Probably because they've been instructed by their lawyer not to, and wisely so.

 

[rapidcharger]

The programming software seems to allow you to block out the VFO mode so its a channelized radio with no way to program via the keypad. Why would that be a problem for part 90?
prcguy

Yes. And a certification alone doesn't make the rule automatically adhered to. All operators of those radios for part 90 were breaking the rules even though many of them thought they weren't.

And the same goes for all the other budget radios with part 90 certifications. Those are all now under the microscope too by the enforcement bureau.

 

[Voyager]

I guess the Motorola radios that have FPP are illegal too, then?

 

[MTS2000des]

Not this **it again

I guess the Motorola radios that have FPP are illegal too, then?

Really? This guano again?

Motorola P25 radios that are capable of FPP require at least one option to be selected, one for FCC users, which require a HARDWARE dongle to be attached to put the portable into programming mode, and one for NTIA/non-FCC users which require a password/menu item to be entered.

The NTIA versions are restricted order only to NTIA agencies. All FCC users have to buy the FCC FPP version which requires both a hardware dongle be attached to the radios' accessory connector and usually requires a menu password (unless disabled in CPS).

No Motorola FPP radios have a VFO either. You're either programming or using it.

So please don't compare the slime of AnyTone Tech to a reputable vendor who doesn't try to pull fast ones on the FCC's OET.
No Motorola FPP radios are marketed or sold to the general public, at least by Motorola Solutions authorized dealers.

 

[Voyager]

I understand. So it's a dongle that makes it FPP, thus illegal. Yet the FCC has no issues with that.