BCD325P2/BCD996P2: Is it at all possible to listen to digital voice simplex ham radio?

[KK6VLV]

I do not have a DV capable transceiver.
I have a BCD996p2 with current updated firmware and two of the paid-for upgrades; "DMR/MotoTRBO", and, "NXDN".
I want to listen to ham radio DV (Digital Voice) with the scanner.

My bottom-line question is what the title of the thread asks; IE: "Is it at all possible to listen to digital voice simplex ham radio?"...
...I will add to that; in any particular form at all, such as DMR, or D-Star, or anything else?...
...Also, would an amateur radio operator friend of mine (both of us are licensed) who has a D-Star capable transceiver have to program more than just the usual call sign I.D. for my scanner to decode the digital to analog on simplex 'mode'?... ...Would it have to be something like two12.5khz 'slots', one DV and other being some sort of digitally encoded I.D. of some sort like what is used on DMR and controlled trunking systems even though it would be simplex without a repeater/control system?

Specifically, we want to experiment and compare the difference between analog and digital voice signals in our area at the edge of readable reception at different locations under different conditions and locations.

If so; how should either of the radios (Tx radio and Rx scanner) be 'programed' for doing that without having a 'control' station 'signal' such as a repeater or systems like commercial and public service 'trunking' etc.?

A screenshot of some parts of programming attempts that did not work as set in ProScan.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

You have to be more specific because there are many flavors of digital voice, many useable on ham radio. But if it's Fusion , D Star, or one if the open source ham DV modes, or Securenet CVSD, it won't work with the Uniden.

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[ko6jw_2]

Neither D-Star or Fusion will ever be marketed for commercial or public safety use. Therefore, it is unlikely that they will be offered by scanner manufacturers. They are also proprietary although D-Star is "open source" sort of. At any rate Icom and Kenwood are offering it. I thing only Yaesu will offer Fusion. Which is better quality? I like Fusion, but I'm biased. I operate a Fusion repeater and a node station and have several Fusion radios. As a ham friend who was familiar with D-Star said upon hearing me on a Fusion repeater, "Wow, I can recognize your voice!"

You can buy hotspots (there are many) which can convert between modes. Thus, I could connect to a DMR system and have the hotspot output Fusion etc. You could have the hotspot output P25 which your scanner can receive and connect to a Fusion room. This may not be quite what you had in mind.

All digital modes will be "full quieting" until they aren't. Where you might pick out words here and there on an analog system, a digital system is basically all or nothing.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Even if you have the capability, there might not be anyone around to hear. I have a DMR rig and I have heard exactly one simplex transmission.

 

[iMONITOR]

I have a BCD996P2 with the DMR upgrade and I have monitored a local UHF amateur repeater and the signal/audio was awesome! Not sure why simplex would be any different.

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[a417]

Even if you have the capability, there might not be anyone around to hear. I have a DMR rig and I have heard exactly one simplex transmission.

...and it was probably accidental.

 

[KK6VLV]

Thanks to all for taking the time to answer my questions.

RE:

But if it's Fusion , D Star, or one if the open source ham DV modes, or Securenet CVSD, it won't work with the Uniden.

So; based on the quote above, I am guessing that the answer, in essence, even with the aforementioned upgrades, is no, the Uniden BCD9962P either will not, or, can not copy 'D-Star, open source ham DV modes, or Securenet CVSD', (whatever that is).

I was hoping that one of the 2 paid-for upgrades would enable the BCD996P2 to be Rx capable of at least one of the 'common' or open source ham DV modes on at least some kind of simplex DV and not be 100% dependant on a repeater or computer/internet system.
I was expecting more, like copying DV simplex too, particularly an open source DV without the need for computer/s, internet, or repeaters, etc..

I prefer standalone radio equipment that does not have to be interfaced with any sort of external computer whatsoever on my end of it.
I was hoping that maybe there would be a way to Rx ham radio DV simplex, albeit even if the transmitter may have to be configured in a particular way which may be different than what is most commonly used in ham radio DV transmissions... ...O well.

I guess I should not be too supersized, but, I am a bit disappointed.