Is it necessary to program GMRS Repeater Inputs [not Outputs] into radio?

[Aviation_Scanner]

I have a Radioddity GM-30 Plus.
When I got the radio, it came preprogrammed with all the FRS/GMRS frequencies, including GMRS Repeater Outputs.

My question is, is it really necessary to have repeater outputs programmed into a radio?
I was going to reprogram the radio with channels 1-22 & leave out the repeater outputs, unless there is a need for them to be programmed in.

 

[tomk62]

If I'm understanding you correctly, I think your question is more about programming additional channels with repeater inputs/outputs.

That said, if you have no intention or need to use (Tx on) any repeaters, and you are referencing the standard GMRS channel/frequency plan, then you are already receiving the 'repeater outputs" on channels 15-22 and there is no explicit need to program the I/O pairs.

 

[mmckenna]

No need to have them in there, but keep in mind the 462.xxx frequencies are both repeater outputs and the primary GMRS simplex channels.

 

[ecps92]

I have a Radioddity GM-30 Plus.
When I got the radio, it came preprogrammed with all the FRS/GMRS frequencies, including GMRS Repeater Outputs.

My question is, is it really necessary to have repeater outputs programmed into a radio?
I was going to reprogram the radio with channels 1-22 & leave out the repeater outputs, unless there is a need for them to be programmed in.

Depending on which list you look at

FRS/GMRS combined channel chart - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Ch-15 thru 22 are the Repeater outputs..

Using the 467 repeater inputs for simplex would be poor practice, as you could be causing interference with a Repeater

 

[NewJerseyOldListener]

I may be wrong but I think that maybe the OP is asking if he needs to put a PL/DPL for decode. I'm sorry but the question is vague.

 

[Aviation_Scanner]

If I'm understanding you correctly, I think your question is more about programming additional channels with repeater inputs/outputs.

That said, if you have no intention or need to use (Tx on) any repeaters, and you are referencing the standard GMRS channel/frequency plan, then you are already receiving the 'repeater outputs" on channels 15-22 and there is no explicit need to program the I/O pairs.

That is correct.
I already have the TX/RX frequencies and PL/DPL codes for some repeaters I'd like to program in.

I may be wrong but I think that maybe the OP is asking if he needs to put a PL/DPL for decode. I'm sorry but the question is vague.

See above

 

[Hans13]

I am confused... What you initially posted:
"My question is, is it really necessary to have repeater outputs programmed into a radio?
I was going to reprogram the radio with channels 1-22 & leave out the repeater outputs, unless there is a need for them to be programmed in."

Doesn't make sense with what you later posted:
"I already have the TX/RX frequencies and PL/DPL codes for some repeaters I'd like to program in."

When you are referring to "repeater outputs", do you mean the frequency that can be an output to a repeater or a simplex frequency? For example, on the 462.650/467.650 repeater pair you could be listening to a repeater on 462.650 or you could be having a simplex conversation on 462.650. So, in such a situation, you would want a memory location for simplex communication on 462.650 and you might want another memory location for repeater communications with the 462.650/467.650 pair.

In your initial post, you asked if you should leave out the "repeater outputs" but your later post stated that you already had some repeater pairs to program in. AFAIK, that radio has a thousand memory locations. Why would you delete 8 simplex channels that someone might be calling simplex on and add repeater pairs when you have enough memory locations to have the 22 simplex frequencies AND a ton of repeater pairs and tone combinations? To do otherwise makes absolutely no sense to me.

ETA: Perhaps the OP doesn't realize that the frequencies which are repeater outputs are also frequencies for simplex communications? To delete them would be to remove 8 potential communication channels from the radio. OP, in case you do not realize, when used for repeaters, the user radio transmits on 467.xxx and receives on 462.xxx of the repeater pair and for simplex (no repeater) operation, both user radios use 462.xxx for both transmit and receive without any external equipment. If you are planning on talking to a simplex user by transmitting on the repeater, that will appear as a one-sided conversation for some other repeater users and would get old for them and the owner(s) rather quickly.

 

[Aviation_Scanner]

Oh silly me! I just realized I meant inputs, not outputs.
Sorry about the confusion folks.
Hard to think straight when you have a lot of other more pressing matters on your mind.

 

[Hans13]

Oh silly me! I just realized I meant inputs, not outputs.
Sorry about the confusion folks.
Hard to think straight when you have a lot of other more pressing matters on your mind.

There should be NO repeater inputs (in other words, the 467.xxx part of a repeater PAIR) programmed as simplex on your radio. So, no channel should have 467.550/467/550, 467.600/467.600, 467.625/467.625, 467.650/467.650, 467.675/467.675, 467.700/467.700, or 467.725/467.725 as simplex channels. Repeater input frequencies are to be used one-way for inputs to respective repeater pairs only.

I would recommend having all 22 of the simplex frequencies programmed in the first 22 slots and then add repeaters, etc in subsequent memory slots as you desire.

ETA: If you mean channels 8-14 (467.xxx5), they are not repeater inputs. They are interstitial frequencies used for simplex 0.5 watt communication. FRS/GMRS Combined Channel Chart

 

[Aviation_Scanner]

I would recommend having all 22 of the simplex frequencies programmed in the first 22 slots and then add repeaters, etc in subsequent memory slots as you desire.

ETA: If you mean channels 8-14 (467.xxx5), they are not repeater inputs. They are interstitial frequencies used for simplex 0.5 watt communication. FRS/GMRS Combined Channel Chart

Actually that was my intention...programming all the simplex frequencies in bank one of my radio, then the repeaters in bank 2.
And understood about channels 8-14.

 

[Hans13]

Actually that was my intention...programming all the simplex frequencies in bank one of my radio, then the repeaters in bank 2.
And understood about channels 8-14.

Sounds like a solid plan.

 

[Colin9690]

That's how I've had mine setup for years; repeaters in this bank, simplex in a separate bank. I concur with @Hans13, simple and streamlined is the way to go.
If you're still kinda new to all this, you might hear the term "talkaround" as well. Don't worry, it's a synonym of "simplex frequency", same thing two terms. Think of "talking around" the repeater, bypassing it, avoiding it.