Loosen up everyone...it's just a scanner, not life and death.
Albeit, a $700 scanner
so, while not life and death, significant nonetheless.
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Albeit, a $700 scanner
so, while not life and death, significant nonetheless.
Albeit, a $700 scanner
Their is alot worse things that could be wrong in some of our worlds, but I know $700 is nothing to blow off. Different perspective of this from someone who has seen worse.
I agree.
Frankly, the other mods and I think that some folks post messages here just to stir the pot. Granted, some of that depends on your perspective. Posting that you don't have problems with a scanner that has proven troublesome to many others could be viewed as stirring the pot. Commenting that those "my scanner is trouble-free" posts is making fun of those that have problems could also be viewed as stirring the pot. It goes both ways.
If you have something to contribute to the thread, please do so. If you can't comment on your own experiences with the scanner or you can't provide solutions to technical or operational problems, maybe you should keep your thoughts to yourselves.
Bob1955
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Anyone "may" post whatever they want regardless if they own that SDS-200/SDS-100 or have used one. It is "freedom of speech". SORRY
As this forum is privately run, "freedom of speech" is at the discretion of the site owner and/or their designees (i.e. Moderators).
You mean censors don't you?
sfb88
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I think it is fair to point out that posting that your scanner does not have the problem is not necessarily done to stir the pot. Many times there are comments to the effect that problems are more likely to elicit posts and can give a skewed impression of the performance of the scanner population at large to people reading the thread. In order not to obscure attempts to solve the problem, perhaps there should be a separate, I don't have problems with my XXXX scanner thread?
But that would get polluted with owners that do have issues. So delete those posts, right? Then people complain we are deleting negative posts about Uniden.
Trust me, it's a no-win situation.
How can someone give a precise review of a radio if he/she never ever had it in their possession? I have 3 SDS200 and all 3 work as they should , so my comments are definitley valid. Others basically call it as "hearsay", saying there is a problem with this, problem with that. Then we have people providing Johnny Cochran "style" legalities, which is starting to go way overboard. I might as well log out and leave the belly-aching to the regulars who complain about everything and anything.
Disruptors (those who 'stir the pot' as you say) have a very important place in society. They can shake the masses out of complacency and drive change. Don't be too quick to drive them away.
BTW, this IS the Tavern. Moderators have already said here that there is much greater leniency allowed here in posts.
Some of you are ignoring where I said "If you have something to contribute to this thread...". Go back to the first post and see if you have something to contribute to what Dave said there.
So...back on track. The SDS 200 is a great scanner and will only get better with additional firmware updates. Happy owner of both SDS 200 and SDS 100 here as well as the other Unidens.
Ubbe
Member
You have to remember that the SDS series of scanners performance are critical to the enviroment much more than a conventional scanner.
They are using a $5 satbox/television chip as a receiver that is on par with a $10 SDR USB stick receiver. It will overload more easily and selectivity are worse than a "normal" scanner. The receiver sensitivity of the chip are not that great and Uniden added a pre-amp to it to make it equal a "normal" scanner. Most of us know that it isn't that easy as adding amplification and be done with it. It will be even more sensitive to the enviroment and needs to have its gain adjusted carefully to not get into problems. As soon as you switch antenna the gain probably have to be re-adjusted to match the signal level in different frequency bands. Uniden have changed the gain level in different firmwares and watched the degree of complaints and have come up with a value that are a middle of the road setting to satisfy most users, but not all. Uniden have not yet made the gain adjustment user selectable for each frequency bands. Maybe a future firmware will have that option together with tone controls for digital/analog audio and other options neccessary to make full use of the SDS scanners.
As the enviroment are so critical to the SDS scanners performance, you will see reports from users that are experiancing both ends of the scale, excellent and extremly bad reception. You cannot say that the scanner in itself are bad or good (maybe the hardware issue of "hum" might be the result of a bad design) as it all depends of the enviroment and the setup it is used in. It is the only scanner that handles simulcast systems and are needed to be used by many people and as those signals are digital it will mask most of the problems of overload and intermodulation, that lets you receive transmissions on frequencies where they are not transmitted. You will notice problems more easily in analog mode and are probably the only reason why VHF and low UHF have the most complaints as there are more analog systems there, but the same problem exists in all frequency bands if the local RF enviroment are against you.
/Ubbe
They are using a $5 satbox/television chip as a receiver that is on par with a $10 SDR USB stick receiver. It will overload more easily and selectivity are worse than a "normal" scanner. The receiver sensitivity of the chip are not that great and Uniden added a pre-amp to it to make it equal a "normal" scanner. Most of us know that it isn't that easy as adding amplification and be done with it. It will be even more sensitive to the enviroment and needs to have its gain adjusted carefully to not get into problems. As soon as you switch antenna the gain probably have to be re-adjusted to match the signal level in different frequency bands. Uniden have changed the gain level in different firmwares and watched the degree of complaints and have come up with a value that are a middle of the road setting to satisfy most users, but not all. Uniden have not yet made the gain adjustment user selectable for each frequency bands. Maybe a future firmware will have that option together with tone controls for digital/analog audio and other options neccessary to make full use of the SDS scanners.
As the enviroment are so critical to the SDS scanners performance, you will see reports from users that are experiancing both ends of the scale, excellent and extremly bad reception. You cannot say that the scanner in itself are bad or good (maybe the hardware issue of "hum" might be the result of a bad design) as it all depends of the enviroment and the setup it is used in. It is the only scanner that handles simulcast systems and are needed to be used by many people and as those signals are digital it will mask most of the problems of overload and intermodulation, that lets you receive transmissions on frequencies where they are not transmitted. You will notice problems more easily in analog mode and are probably the only reason why VHF and low UHF have the most complaints as there are more analog systems there, but the same problem exists in all frequency bands if the local RF enviroment are against you.
/Ubbe
Bob1955
Member
Let's keep arguing this POINT throughout Labor Day the "UPCOMING" Labor Day weekend!
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DaveNF2G
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sigh. I think we need a "downvote" button.
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You know everybody, this isn't much different than the political climate between the left and the right. It's difficult to find bipartisanship.
I have to say I am amazed between all of the different threads and all the "noise" how far some members have come from the first person who took the outer cover off while the radio was running and maneuvered the inner cover thereby affecting his hum... to the level that we are at today that pretty well demonstrates a good understanding of the problem.
As a whole, this is a VERY intelligent community all assembled in one place but we also have our personalities and temperaments that can get in the way sometimes.
I have to say I am amazed between all of the different threads and all the "noise" how far some members have come from the first person who took the outer cover off while the radio was running and maneuvered the inner cover thereby affecting his hum... to the level that we are at today that pretty well demonstrates a good understanding of the problem.
As a whole, this is a VERY intelligent community all assembled in one place but we also have our personalities and temperaments that can get in the way sometimes.
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StaticDischarge
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It's just not the same...
Somebody is not following their own advice...
W9BU said..."Some of you are ignoring where I said "If you have something to contribute to this thread...". Go back to the first post and see if you have something to contribute to what Dave said there."
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