Is the XTS2500 approved for MURS?

[dmason04]

Hello,

I've attempted to find information on approval for the XTS2500 radio with FCC ID: AZ489FT3807 and have not been able to come to the conclusion of whether the XTS2500 is approved for operation on MURS (on the .5W low power setting of course). Does anyone know if this is approved for MURS?

David

 

[Hit_Factor]

MURS is 2 watt max, why .5 watt?

eCFR :: 47 CFR Part 95 Subpart J -- Multi-Use Radio Service

www.ecfr.gov

 

[dmason04]

MURS is 2 watt max, why .5 watt?

eCFR :: 47 CFR Part 95 Subpart J -- Multi-Use Radio Service

www.ecfr.gov

High power setting on the XTS2500 is 5 watts, low is .5 watts.

 

[MTS2000des]

No. It is not part 95 certified.

 

[jaspence]

MURS radios require fixed frequencies and have specified band width rules. Multi-Use Radio Service - Wikipedia

 

[chief21]

MURS radios require fixed frequencies and have specified band width rules.

Similar requirements for FRS and CB radios. These services are "licensed by rule" and, in part, the rules require certain exclusive specifications for radios used in those unlicensed services.

 

[mmckenna]

I've attempted to find information on approval for the XTS2500 radio with FCC ID: AZ489FT3807 and have not been able to come to the conclusion of whether the XTS2500 is approved for operation on MURS (on the .5W low power setting of course). Does anyone know if this is approved for MURS?

The answer is no. The XTS2500 is —only— approved for Part 90 (LMR) and Part 80 (Marine VHF).

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/Eas731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY&RequestTimeout=500&application_id=mIFnqpSWdS%2BXms1TNAC8ag%3D%3D&fcc_id=AZ489FT3807

And the obligatory statement:
Yeah, a -lot- of people completely ignore the type acceptance thing and will use any radio they feel like on MUR. It's not right, but people do it. The FCC doesn't roam around looking for this stuff and doesn't have the time to enforce it.

 

[dmason04]

The answer is no. The XTS2500 is —only— approved for Part 90 (LMR) and Part 80 (Marine VHF).

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/Eas731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY&RequestTimeout=500&application_id=mIFnqpSWdS%2BXms1TNAC8ag%3D%3D&fcc_id=AZ489FT3807

And the obligatory statement:
Yeah, a -lot- of people completely ignore the type acceptance thing and will use any radio they feel like on MUR. It's not right, but people do it. The FCC doesn't roam around looking for this stuff and doesn't have the time to enforce it.

Thanks, that clarifies it for me.

 

[wa8pyr]

And the obligatory statement:
Yeah, a -lot- of people completely ignore the type acceptance thing and will use any radio they feel like on MUR. It's not right, but people do it. The FCC doesn't roam around looking for this stuff and doesn't have the time to enforce it.

And since there are no corporate entities with deep pockets egging them on, they won't spend any time on it, either. IMHO, these days the FCC is mainly a reactive beast, only doing something when they get a complaint. They're generally only proactive when it's something that would benefit the corporations with deep pockets.

 

[MTS2000des]

Yup. The FCC, pandering to telecom cartels since 1934, and spayed and neutered since 1996. At your service to AT&Turd, Verizon, T-Mobile, Comcast, Charter, etc.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Follow the money. The FCC is a TINY government agency with VERY limited enforcement capabilities, and the money in the cellular marketplace is positively gargantuan compared to the peanut fragments that go to MURS activity.

If you want to meet your local friendly FCC enforcement agent, get a cellular jammer off of alibaba or amazon and turn it on.

No, don't do that.

It's one of the few non-weapon products that are actually illegal for a civilian to merely POSSESS in the United States, even if non functional.

 

[MTS2000des]

and yet with little to no enforcement, it's a consequence free environment so this means job security for me. My employer has already benefited from my RFIM certification ten times over.

 

[mmckenna]

The FCC does react to interference to public safety users. Been there, done that. Happens pretty quickly, too.

But there are those that think the FCC comes screaming in code 3 and start slapping around some poor kid using a GMRS radio without a license. They don't work that way.

In my experience, they come in and act like adults. They talk to the offender and address the issues. If it isn't fixed in a reasonable amount of time, they escalate. If you look at the EB documents, you'll see they don't immediately go to fines. It's usually some level of verbal/written warning. The guys that actually get busted by the FCC are being blatantly stupid and continue to do so for a length of time.

 

[K6GBW]

Cellphone jammers! God, in 2008 we had one of the local establishments buy one of those off the internet and plug it in. They wanted to stop cellphones during lectures and presentations. They didn't realize the range that they could have. It was jacking up our control channel and took us weeks to track down. The second we unplugged it the problem stopped.

 

[ElroyJetson]

A M/A-Com (Harris, GE..whatever brand name they used, pick one...) P7100 with a VCO problem (One that can be caused by a failed single specific component) will still transmit at full power with the VCO unlocked, thus creating a wideband sweeping signal generator with some power to it, and a very fast sweep rate. The end result is that if it's close enough to a site to get RF capture over weaker signals, it'll jam a trunking site.

I've seen it. Eventually the officer with the flaky radio was identified and he was told to stop using that radio immediately. Every time he tried to use his portable radio it jammed the local site if he was close to it! It quickly went to the radio shop and was repaired soon enough.

Since the basic radio architecture is the same for many GE-Harris radios, you could rig even an old Orion to do the same thing. Don't. But for some reason, those radios don't necessarily inhibit the transmitter in the event of a VCO lock failure. Once upon a time I could have told you why that is. Not now. I'd have to drag out the service manuals to refresh my memory.