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Israel's encrypted communications hacked by Hezbollah?

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From: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/07/21/why-israeli-tactical-losses-foreshadow-domestic-anti-terror-failures/

I have no idea who this guy is or where his info comes from, but FWIW...

Why Israeli Tactical Losses Foreshadow Domestic Anti-Terror Failures
July 21, 2006
Vox Populi
By Tom Marzullo

If possible, it is always better to learn from the failure of others.
Whether in business, politics or war this axiom holds true.

What we have today is such an opportunity and it will be very expensive
to ignore.

The lesson to be learned is that state-supported Islamist terrorists
have placed a premium on gaining the ability to break into the
communications security of their opponents and disseminate what they
learn to their tactical units in the field, in real-time.

This time around it is Hezbollah and the Israelis.

The tell-tales are numerous. First there is the ability of the
terrorists to very successfully interdict tactical Israeli operations
that are initiated, controlled and coordinated using secure electronic
communications. The next is that the Israelis are having only limited
success in interdicting terrorist tactical units and again those Israeli
tactical efforts are initiated, controlled and coordinated using secure
electronic communications.

During the preplanning for the current Hezbollah offensive it would not
be considered unreasonable for the terrorists to have built a high
degree of mobility into their strike teams if only to avoid the deadly
Israeli counterstrikes they have had long and unhappy experience with.
If the ability to monitor and disseminate the Israeli preparations for
these counterstrikes to these strike teams was an added factor, then we
would see the kinds of fairly consistent results we have.

This kind of intelligence capability is always desirable in any
conflict. The last time the US suffered this level of pervasive
interdiction was in its classified intelligence projects (MACV-SOG) at
the close of the Vietnam War. Being a veteran of one of the projects
experiencing those heavy casualty levels has prompted my long-term
interest in understanding why the special operations casualty rates had
exponentially risen to better than 160% during my assignment.

What I discovered was that the kinds of horrific tactical failures we
experienced were due to two major factors. The first was the increased
understanding of our tactics and scope of operations by the enemy and
the second was the failure of communications security at the strategic
and tactical levels. While climbing the learning curve is a constant
for both sides in any prolonged conflict because to fail to do so is to
die, it is the second factor that is utterly prescriptive of such rising
incidences of failure.

The nature and the scope of the Israeli setbacks are eerily similar to
those suffered by US special operations forces so long ago. When you
add the level of confidence projected by the Hezbollah leadership that
they have many more 'surprises' in store for the Israelis it becomes
obvious that an intelligence breakthrough has been achieved and
consolidated into their strategic and tactical planning. We can only be
thankful that the inherent low self-esteem of the terrorists have
prompted them to hint at this coup, something the WWII allied leadership
knew better than to betray after breaking the Japanese and German codes.

As we have monitored the cross-pollination of tactics and capabilities
between the Islamist terrorist communities it becomes obvious that
electronic intelligence is now becoming generically incorporated into
their scope of operations and tactical routines.

What this means is that we can expect that military and police
communications in the US will be the focus of similar terrorist
intelligence efforts aimed at achieving what Hezbollah has succeeded
with against Israel. It is needful to fully comprehend that while some
domestic secure US military communications are at par with the Israeli's
compromised systems, most National Guard units don't share that higher
level of security. Police operations are at an even greater risk, as
their communications nets are far less sophisticated and therefore
easier to effectively compromise to the great benefit of terrorist
operations.


We need to be paying very close attention to the true meaning of current
events as they may soon be repeated here. We still have time and that
is something it will cost blood to waste.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Tom Marzullo is a physicist, educator and environmental specialist with
experience in both Special Forces and submarine special operations. He
has provided testimony to the US Senate on a variety of issues,
including Iraq. He pioneered the first victory of Internet journalism
over manufactured stories within the conventional media in what became
known as the Tailwind scandal, developed the early accurate strategic
assessments of our current situation in Iraq as well as the prediction
of beheadings used as propaganda tools by Islamic terrorists
 

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rhutch said:
Harry has an active imagination. He should try his hand at fiction.
Me ??? Heck, I haven't had an original thought in years. I just pass along others people's wild-eyed speculation, like this Marzullo guy's. :)
 

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Secure comm

Yikes!! If that is true, the tactical secure comm. Of the IDF
Has been compromised , Then that is very bad for US forces.
They use the similar communications as the US.
The question is, is Sincgars communications at risk.
Fast frequency hopping radios with digital cryptographic embedded
In the radio.

That type of gear makes Pro-Voice look like CB radio as far
As secure communications go.

Let’s hope that the report is mistaken.

mm
 

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Microwavemike said:
Yikes!! If that is true, the tactical secure comm. Of the IDF
Has been compromised , Then that is very bad for US forces.
They use the similar communications as the US.
The question is, is Sincgars communications at risk.
Fast frequency hopping radios with digital cryptographic embedded
In the radio.

That type of gear makes Pro-Voice look like CB radio as far
As secure communications go.

Let’s hope that the report is mistaken.

mm
If the enemy captures a piece of your comm gear you always be at risk until you change comm/crypto platform. If they send ground troops in they most certainly will have comm gear lost or captured, it works both ways as well.
 

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Microwavemike said:
Yikes!! If that is true...

Let’s hope that the report is mistaken.
Doing a couple web "news" searches I see nothing at all about this, and the writer only says, rather cryptically (no pun intended) "We can only be thankful that the inherent low self-esteem of the terrorists have prompted them to hint at this coup..."

It's a pretty safe bet that neither the Israeli nor the U.S. govt would be at all anxious to admit it IF it's even true.
 

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Got to be pure speculation on the part of the author. There's a lot of propaganda going on regarding what Israel and their enemies are/are not capable of. I think it's simple: the Israelis have never lost a war against the 14th Century savages, and they likely will continue that record.
 

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SURELY THE ARMED FORCES COULD LOCK (INHIBIT) THAT PARTICULAR RADIO OUT OF THE SYSTEM MAKING IT USELESS
CAN'T THEY? I MEAN IF THEY ARE USING MOTOROLAS LIKE OUR
TROUPS USE. I AGREE WITH YA'LL I HOPE HE IS MISTAKING
red8
 

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You guys, don't be silly.
It's simply inconceivable that any group outside of a few select, mostly European, states could have broken even moderately sophisticated Isreali codes. Isreali comm gear is among the best in the world.
 

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The only "advantage" that these TERRORISTS militant organizations have is that they operate within civilian areas. In homes, schools, religious houses, ect.... None of them would ever stand a chance operating out in the open as an overt free-standing military unit.

Cowards. Camping out in yo mamma's house, hiding behind women and children.

Do any of you really think or believe that God looks with favor or approval on this type of tactic?

But to be totally fair, He doesn't approval of the situation whereby at this year in our civilization's history, that war still exists at all.

Of more modern times, nobody wins a war. All participants lose.
 
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Talk about "losing", what about a country that has won every war,
given back 1/2 the land for "peace"
and still gets attached REGULARLY during the peaceful "ceasefires"
and worse between?:mad: :evil: :mad: :evil:
 

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you can run a fully encrypted(Smartzone,Opensky,P25,Tetra,etc) system, DES/OFB, hell, Fascinator... still only takes one guy with 100 bucks and some knowhow to jam your entire system.. and make communications all but impossible.....

I don't think the state laws preventing interfering with emergency communications, or the FEDERAL interference laws are gonna stop "them" from doing it...
 

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it's really sad to see one of my favorite places (haifa/lebanon-israel border) become a war zone. Only a few years ago i visited there, during peace time. I'll never forget it.

Lets hope that the fighting doesn't spread out to more parts of israel (like tel aviv) because if it does, I'm going to be helping some of my relatives move to america.
 

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Earlier I eluded to the idea that war actually served a valid evolutionary purpose in the past. In more modern times, peace is our ideal objective and is decidedly...ah...er.....better. Duh.

"War is the natural state and heritage of evolving man; peace is the social yardstick measuring civilzation's advancement. Before the partial socialization of the advancing races man was exceedingly indivdualistic, extremely suspicious and unbeliveably quarrelsome. Violence is the law of nature, hostility the automatic reaction of the children of nature, while war is but these same activities carried on collectively. And wherever and whenever the fabric of civilization becomes stressed by the complications of society's advancement, there is always an immediate and ruinious reversion to the early methods of violent adjustment of human interassociations."

"War is an animalistic reaction to misunderstandings and irritations; peace attends upon the civilized solution of all such problems and difficulties. The Sangik (colored) races, together with the later deteriorated Adamites and Nodites, were all belligerent. The Andonites were early taught the golden rule, and, even today, their Eskimo descendants live very much by that code; custom is strong among them, and they are fairly free from violent antagonisms."

"Always these olden tribes made war at the bidding of gods, at behest of their chiefs or medicine men. The Hebrews believed in such a "God of battles"; and the narrative of their raid on the Midianites is a typical recital of the atrocious cruelty of the ancient tribal wars; this assult, with its slaughter of all males and the later killing of all male children and women who were not virgins, would have done honor to the mores of a tribal chieftain of two hundred thousand years ago. And all of this was executed in the "name of the Lord God of Israel."

"Military mercy has been slow in coming to mankind. Even when a woman, Deborah, rules the Hebrews, the same wholesale cruelty persisted. Her general in his victory over the gentiles caused "all the host to fall upon the sword; there was not one left."

The Social Value Of War

"In past ages a fierce war would institute social changes and facilitate the adoption of new ideas such as would not have occured naturally in ten thousand years. The terrible price paid for the certain war advantages was that society was temporarily thrown back into savagery; civilized reason had to abdicate. War is strong medicine, very costly and very dangerous; while often curative of certain social disorders, it sometimes kills the patient, destroys the society.

The constant necessity for national defense creates many new and advanced social adjustments. Society, today, enjoys the benefit of a long list of useful innovations which were at first wholly military and is even indebted to war for the dance, one of the early forms of which was a military drill.

War has had a social value to past civilizations because it:

Imposed discipline, enforced co-operation

Put a premium on fortitude and courage

Fostered and solidified nationalism

Destroyed weak and unfit peoples

Dissolved the illusion of primitive equality and selectively stratified society.

War has had a certain evolutionary and selective value, but like slavery, it must sometime be abandoned as civilization slowly advances. Olden wars promoted travel and cultural intercourse; these ends are now better served by modern methods of transport and communication. Olden wars strengthened nations, but modern struggles disrupt civilized culture. Ancient warfare resulted in the decimation of inferior peoples; the net result of modern conflict is the selective destruction of the best human stocks. Early war promoted organiztion and efficiency, but these have now become in aims of modern industry. During past ages war was a social ferment which pushed civilzation forward; this result is now better attained by ambition and invention. Ancient warfare supported the concept of a God of battles, but modern man has been told that God is love. War has served many valuable purposes in the past, it has been an indespensable scaffolding in the building of civilization, but it is rapidily becoming culturally bankrupt - incapable of producing dividends of social gain in any way commensurate with the terrible losses attendant upon its invocation."

"Do not make the mistake of glorifying war; rather discern what is has done for society so that you may more accurately visualize what its substitutes must provide in order to continue for the advancement of civilization. And if such substitutes are not provided, then you may be sure that war will long continue.

Man will never accept peace as a normal mode of living until he has been thoroughly and repeatedly convinced that peace is best for his material welfare, and until society has wisely provided peaceful substitutes for the gratification of that inherent tendancy periodically to let loose a collective drive designed to liberate those ever-accumulationg emotions and energies belonging to the self-preservation reactions of the human species.

But even in passing, war should be honored as the school of experience which compelled a race or arrogant individualists to submit themselves to a highly concentrated authority - a chief executive. Old-fashioned was did select the innately great men for leadership, but modern war no longer does this. To discover leaders society must now turn to the conquests of peace: indudtry, science, and social achievement."

The Urantia Book, pages 783,4,5
 
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mkewman said:
it's really sad to see one of my favorite places (haifa/lebanon-israel border) become a war zone. Only a few years ago i visited there, during peace time. I'll never forget it.

Lets hope that the fighting doesn't spread out to more parts of israel (like tel aviv) because if it does, I'm going to be helping some of my relatives move to america.

I too have been there in "peace time" (Peace means only a few mortars and rockets are coming over the border).

It is a place all should visit to truly appreciate the beauty of this earth, and the meaning of "making the dessert bloom".

A good read:
http://www.ikehillah.org/joemccainonthejewsisrael/
 

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ReceiverBeaver said:
Earlier I eluded to the idea that war actually served a valid evolutionary purpose in the past. In more modern times, peace is our ideal objective and is decidedly...ah...er.....better. Duh.."

The Urantia Book, pages 783,4,5
Save space. Give us the link next time :)
 
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