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Kenwood NXDN Radios

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garys

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Will the NXDN radios also work in analog mode?

I ask because one of the smaller private ambulances in my area uses a UHF NXDN trunk system for dispatch. However, they also have a 9-1-1 contract with a town in their service area. That town uses P25 UHF for dispatch, but has a UHF analog channel set aside for "EMS-PD Interop".

I doubt that the ambulance radio does P25, but if it can do analog UHF, some of what I hear would make a lot more sense.

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Kenwood NEXEDGE and Icom iDAS NXDN radios support legacy analog mode no problem. Some of the mixed mode behavior is a little different between them when switching back and forth between NXDN digital and plain old analog modes.

Kenwood's NEXEDGE supports 12.5k and 6.25k NXDN modes. iCom's iDAS only supports 6.25k NXDN mode. iCom and Kenwood's NXDN modes are compatible in 6.25k mode only and on conventional systems. The NXDN trunking formats are different for each and are incompatible. I think iCom decided to go straight to 6.25k NXDN mode instead of supporting 12.5k NXDN as a migration path. I have successfully used Kenwood NEXEDGE radios on iCom iDAS conventional systems in 6.25k NXDN mode.

I have a few UHF Kenwood NEXEDGE handhelds (NX-300) and I've used them in analog mode on the 440 ham band and they work great there and also on GMRS. Same with iCom iDAS handhelds.

UHF Kenwood NEXEDGE handhelds have Part 95 FCC type acceptance in addition to Part 90, making them squeaky clean and legal as GMRS equipment in analog mode. OTOH, iCom iDAS radios are Part 90 only. Kenwood's UHF NEXEDGE mobiles are Part 90 only, IIRC. This is from looking up my NX-300 back in 2009.

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The Kenwood NX-5000 line will do analog, NXDN, P25 and DMR, so there are options.

All Kenwood NXDN/NexEdge radios do analog very well. I've got about 400 of them on my system and they all have backup analog channels.
 

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the kenwood nx-5000 line will do analog, nxdn, p25 and dmr, so there are options.

All kenwood nxdn/nexedge radios do analog very well. I've got about 400 of them on my system and they all have backup analog channels.

nx-5000 --> * DROOL *

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Thanks to everyone for the answers. From the little I know about this particular service, the ownership is parsimonious. To say the least. :D

The Kenwood NX-5000 line will do analog, NXDN, P25 and DMR, so there are options.

All Kenwood NXDN/NexEdge radios do analog very well. I've got about 400 of them on my system and they all have backup analog channels.
 

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Thanks to everyone for the answers. From the little I know about this particular service, the ownership is parsimonious. To say the least. :D

Most all commercial/Public safety digital format radios are backward compatible with regular legacy analog. It would be a total mess if they didn't.
 

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Kenwood NEXEDGE and Icom iDAS NXDN radios support legacy analog mode no problem. Some of the mixed mode behavior is a little different between them when switching back and forth between NXDN digital and plain old analog modes.

Kenwood's NEXEDGE supports 12.5k and 6.25k NXDN modes. iCom's iDAS only supports 6.25k NXDN mode. iCom and Kenwood's NXDN modes are compatible in 6.25k mode only and on conventional systems. The NXDN trunking formats are different for each and are incompatible. I think iCom decided to go straight to 6.25k NXDN mode instead of supporting 12.5k NXDN as a migration path. I have successfully used Kenwood NEXEDGE radios on iCom iDAS conventional systems in 6.25k NXDN mode.
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Looks like the latest line of NXDN radios from iCOM are capable of 12.5KHz NXDN

16K0F3E, 14K0F3E, 11K0F3E, 8K50F3E ,8K30F1E/D, 4K00F1E/D

Those are the emissions right off the iCOM flyer for their latest NXDN radios.

Both companies are building radios that can be used on both type C and type D trunk systems.
 
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