LA Area Transit Frequencies

[transitman]

For those who monitor transit agencies, here are some additions and updates:

The "Bus - Bellflower Area" TG 1-08-156 shown on the Mobile Relay Associates (Los Angeles) page is Norwalk Transit and frequency 454.44375 is LCN 08.

Beach Cities Transit uses 472.1125, LCN 11, TG 0-11-093.

TG 35136 shown as Burbank Transit bus operations on the ICIS page is used for paratransit operations. The fixed route buses use Nextel.

Apparently Coach America no longer uses 452.7625 for Fly Away Bus Operations. This frequency is now licensed to Acumen Communications (LCN 10) and is used by Southland Transit for their MTA contracted fixed routes (0-10-060 Base, 0-10-061 Mobile) as well as several paratransit operations (0-10-069 Mobile, 0-10-070 Base and 0-10-072 Base, 0-10-073 Mobile).

According to Wikipedia, there are 6 DASH contracts. I've been able to identify 4 radio systems used:
1. 472.3625, LCN 16, TG 0-16-078, used by Veolia
2. Paging Systems (Los Angeles), the 2 talkgroups shown as MTA Buses are actually DASH TG's, used by MV Transportation.
3. Touch Tel Mobile (Los Angeles) TG's 0-11-071 Base and 0-11-072 Mobile, used by MV Transportation.
4. Touch Tel Mobile (Los Angeles) TG's 0-11-074 Base and 0-11-124 Mobile, used by MV Transportation.

Cerritos on Wheels (COW) and Downey Link (excluding paratransit) use TG's 0-11-069 Base and 0-11-070 Mobile. Both transit systems are operated by MV Transportation and additional system maybe using these talkgroups.

Other systems which I'm trying to find information include Foothill Transit, GO West (West Covina), Palos Verdes Peninsula Transit Authority, Metropolitan Area Express (MAX) administered by Torrance Transit however not using their radio system as the service is contracted, MTA routes contracted to MV Transportation, EL Monte Transit, East Los Angeles Shuttle (El Sol) and West Hollywood Cityline. If anyone has information, please post.

Happy monitoring!!!!!!!

 

[transitman]

One additional agency which I'm trying to find frequency information is Thousand Oaks Transit.

 

[LAflyer]

Thanks for the info. Have you submitted it to the Db??

For info regarding MAX which is jointly provided by the cities of El Segundo, Lawndale, Lomita, Torrance, its board voted to plan a system shut the system down by early 2013. Torrance the largest financial contributor pulled its funding beyond the 2012-2013 budget year in February. This follows Rancho Palos Verdes that pulled out in 2011 and Hermosa and Manhattan Beach prior.
With reduced member contributions, and planned 2012 bus replacement, unless new dollars are found someplace, it likely the end of the road for the system.

 

[karldotcom]

Montebello Bus Lines is also on ICIS...they have two talkgroups 39056, 39072 that can be heard on the Montebello and Glendale cells. I had no idea they went to Downtown LA until I heard them....

 

[LAflyer]

Hey anyone have a clue where Norwalk Transit is these days?

They used to be on VHF Low-band however have not heard them in a year or more. I checked other City of Norwalk licenses including their LTR system but no sign of them.

 

[LAflyer]

For another potential DASH line check out TG 0-14-120 on the Mobile Relay Assoc Lukens site.

 

[transitman]

I'll check this out on my next trip to LA.

 

[transitman]

To LAflyer:

Information for the Mobile Relay Associates Mt. Lukens page is blocked. What frequency is assigned to LCN 14 so that TG 0-14-120 can be monitored?

 

[Mick]

Norwalk Transit

They may still be active here:
Mobile Relay Associates (Los Angeles) Trunking System, Los Angeles, California - Scanner Frequencies

102156 Transit Control, buses, Norwalk/Cerritos areas
102157 Transit Control, buses
108156 Norwalk Transit

I also used to hear them on 45.62 131.8, Norwalk Transit System.

Norwalk has a license on these frqs, but I have not monitored them:
45.40
45.52
45.72
45.80
46.08
46.12
46.54 131.8 Norwalk “public services”

Hey anyone have a clue where Norwalk Transit is these days?

They used to be on VHF Low-band however have not heard them in a year or more. I checked other City of Norwalk licenses including their LTR system but no sign of them.

 

[Mick]

Here are the MRA LTR TRS's that used to be at RR:
Mobile Relay Associates LTR TRS SoCal

LCN14 is 472.2375 the last I knew of. But I don't think TG 014157 is active anymore with the Norwalk area shuttle.
Mobile Relay Associates LTR TRS SoCal: Mobile Relay Associates (Mt. Lukens)

To LAflyer:

Information for the Mobile Relay Associates Mt. Lukens page is blocked. What frequency is assigned to LCN 14 so that TG 0-14-120 can be monitored?

 

[LAflyer]

Transitman, here is the latest I have for the MRA Lukens. Its a rather active system, and who knows there might be more than a couple bus services on it beyond the TG 0-14-120 which I noted.

03 – 451.450
04 – 451.475
06 – 451.725
08 – 471.8125
11 – 452.375
13 – 452.7275
14 – 472.2375
15 – 452.750
16 – 472.3625
17 – 472.8625
18 – 472.3875
19 – 472.7375
20 – 472.8125


Thanks Mick - Yeah the old low band stuff seems to have been dead for a while. I'll try that LTR again, but last time I checked it was quiet.

 

[Mick]

I have LCN10=472.1625 at this TRS.

I have LCN13=452.7250.

A list of TG's (old list) is here:
Mobile Relay Associates LTR TRS SoCal: Mobile Relay Associates (Mt. Lukens)

Happy monitoring, Mick

Transitman, here is the latest I have for the MRA Lukens. Its a rather active system, and who knows there might be more than a couple bus services on it beyond the TG 0-14-120 which I noted.

03 – 451.450
04 – 451.475
06 – 451.725
08 – 471.8125
11 – 452.375
13 – 452.7275
14 – 472.2375
15 – 452.750
16 – 472.3625
17 – 472.8625
18 – 472.3875
19 – 472.7375
20 – 472.8125


Thanks Mick - Yeah the old low band stuff seems to have been dead for a while. I'll try that LTR again, but last time I checked it was quiet.

 

[transitman]

Thanks for the information. Will post any updates after my visit to LA later this month.

 

[transitman]

Updates

Listed below is what I found during my time in the LA Area:

MTA Downtown Radio Channel - The recent opening of the Expo light rail line resulted in the creation of a Downtown Radio Channel. The boundaries of the new zone are 7th St/ Metro Center to 23rd Street on the Expo Line and to Grand Station on the Blue Line. Frequencies are 159.5175 Input, 151.85 Output. Neither frequency is licensed to the MTA.

TG 0-14-120 on frequency 472.2375 is used by a MTA service contractor (either MV Transportation or Veolia). Most conversations concerned route 603 along with other MTA routes. Unfortunately I didn't have time to view the side of a route 603 bus to determine who operates the line. Perhaps someone local can do that and post the results.

Thousand Oaks Transit uses 154.115, PL 127.3.

Foothill Transit utilizes two frequencies - TG 1-20-113 on MRA 471.4875 is used by the Pomona Division. I'm 100% positive of the use as the frequency was "captured" by a Signal Stalker at the Pomona Transit Center from an electric powered bus which are assigned to the Pomona Division. TG 0-14-060 on Nat Sci & Tech 471.425 is used by the Irwindale Division. I'm 80% confident in the useage based on the bus numbers calling or being called. I'm somewhat surprised that frequencies from separate radio systems are used by Foothill. May require further monitoring!

The data shown for the Acumen Communication (Mt. Wilson) site has changed slightly. Based on data obtained from an MTA bus operated under contract by Southland Transit, the following information is current:
451.075, PL 167.9 is Channel 1
461.35 PL 167.9 is Channel 2
TG 0-10-060 (B) & 0-10-061 (M) on 452.7625 are used as a Supervisor Channel as noted on the bus. These 2 TG's were formerly used by MTA contract buses operated by Southland Transit which now use the conventional channels.

Omnitrans 452.625 is the Montclair Division channel, 452.725 is the San Bernardino Division channel. No transmissions were heard on 452.65.

Corona Cruiser uses 452.70, PL 123.0

Santa Clarita Transit has converted to Nexedge.

Happy Monitoring!!!

 

[LAflyer]

Thanks for the update. I'll work to get the Db changed as needed.

In the future also kindly submit them also directly to the Db as its not a guaranteed that a Db Admin will read the thread and catch the updates.

 

[LAflyer]

Had a question Transitman

I notice TG 0-14-060 on Nat Sci LA system is shown as McCormick Ambulance in the Db. I tried to listen to the system, however after about 30-mins I did not pick up any activity on the TG. So I'm not sure if the Db is still correct, or if your 80% feeling that its instead Foothill Transit is the correct guess.

 

[transitman]

Hey LAflyer:

The conversation which I heard was for a bus exchange at the Montclair Transit Center and the bus numbers corresponded to a listing I had for buses based at Irwindale (I hope my notes didn't get mixed up). I agree the TG was not very busy, so this may require additional monitoring. I would suggest M-F before or after the peak hours.