LA City Fire on Pulsepoint

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kearthfan101

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Just a quick note to all of you, LAFD is officially live on the Pulsepoint app! (Available for Apple mobile devices and Android). LAFD now joins LA County Fire, Beverly Hills FD, and Long Beach FD in bringing CPR notifications to thousands (maybe millions) of LA County civilians who can very well be life savers in the case of an emergency nearby. LAFD has chosen full CAD info, so you're able to see Medical Emergencies, Traffic Accidents, Structure Fires, and other calls that are handled each day, all showing unit designations of on-scene companies. I have tested the app vs listening to live radio (not Broadcastify) and the results are outstanding as the info comes to your phone as the units get dispatched. If you saw an earlier thread about LAFD reorganizing their geographic boundaries, this is definitely shown in the app as the "agencies" are divided up into Central, South, Valley, and West divisions. So for example, if you only want to get notifications in the San Fernando Valley, you can choose this with the press of a button.

Enjoy the amazing app, and maybe you can be the next life-saver!!!


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Yes, after nearly two years of internal testing, a green light was given for the soft-launch of LAFD Pulsepoint, with a formal rollout scheduled for January.

Links for obtaining the application and additional info can be found at:

PulsePoint.org

Respectfully Yours in Safety and Service,

Brian Humphrey
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Los Angeles Fire Department
 

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Pulsepoint for LAFD is an amazing addition to an already great department. I just have a question for those of you using pulsepoint what does it mean when a unit is available on scene? Thank you in advance
 

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Means that they have been released from the incident, returning to their station 9/10 times


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That would make a lot of sense. For some reason I didn't think that, probably because I was thinking a enroute to quarters status would have been added; if the system could show that. Thank You.
 

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Pulsepoint for LAFD is an amazing addition to an already great department. I just have a question for those of you using pulsepoint what does it mean when a unit is available on scene? Thank you in advance

It means that the unit is staying on scene to speed up the rehab effort, but can respond to new incidents. This increases the rehab time for the remaining units, but that is not as much of a priority as a new incident.

All fire agency incident commanders have a goal of getting resources released in order to respond sufficient resources to new incidents. If a unit on scene can help with the rehab stage while being available for dispatch it accomplishes getting all the apparatus on scene back in station sooner. If an incident is large enough to justify moving apparatus from other stations to cover stations stripped of apparatus due to a large incident, effort is made to return them to their first out fire station.
 

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I believe though it actually is that the unit is enroute to quarters for LAFD. Due to the fact that since kearthfan101 mentioned it was unit returning to station it made sense. A unit called a call false and became Available on scene and after a good 5-10 the call was cleared. It has happened a couple times even with calls with RA's the RA transports and the Engine goes"available on scene"
 

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I believe though it actually is that the unit is enroute to quarters for LAFD. Due to the fact that since kearthfan101 mentioned it was unit returning to station it made sense. A unit called a call false and became Available on scene and after a good 5-10 the call was cleared. It has happened a couple times even with calls with RA's the RA transports and the Engine goes"available on scene"

I'm speaking from experience of being on incidents with the U.S. Forest Service and working with fire departments in 4 states. If a unit leaves the scene of an incident to return to station they are "returning to quarters." In the case of a false alarm they indicate they are "available on scene" while they investigate the false alarm or make sure they determine the call is a false alarm. In the case of the RA leaving and the engine having a status of "available on scene," the engine is usually taking a report, an activity that can be interrupted for a new call. The "available on scene" status means they are on the incident scene doing something of a secondary priority that can be overridden by a new incident response. When they complete their secondary priority task the status changes to "available - returning to quarters." LAFD's button label may have the wording for this last different to what I've stated. The abbreviations on the buttons are hard to decipher even when you know what most of them mean. Changing status from "available on scene" to "returning to quarters" is usually done with the press of a button and is not announced by voice on the radio.

I've seen pictures of the status buttons on the MDTs in LAFD apparatus. If I'm remembering correctly the buttons correspond to what I've said above. I've never worked for or with a department that considers "available on scene" to be a precursor to and meant to include "returning to quarters" as well. Some apparatus may have a status of "available on scene" and then are assigned to a new non-emergency call without pointing the rig in the direction of their quarters. This is especially true for medical units, RA's in LAFD speak. They might be assigned to visit an ER as followup for a patient or to pick up supplies. If their status is "available on scene" the dispatcher usually queries if the apparatus is available for a non emergency call. The unit might answer that they can clear the scene in x minutes and then respond. If an emergency involving an "available on scene" apparatus then they are dispatched in accordance with the units shown as needed by type and size of incident as emergency incidents always trump "available on scene."
 
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EXSmokey is 100% correct. "Available On Scene" does not mean they're returning to quarters. There is no such status as "Returning to quarters". Status's available are only "on the radio" (meaning out from a station, driving around, shopping, getting coffee, etc, in a perspective district) or in quarters (in perspective quarters, whichever you select).
 

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I’ve been using PulsPoint since the first day it went “live” here in Los Angeles. The one thing that really irritates me is how every location, no matter where in the City it is, is described as being in “Los Angeles”. It will give an address and street name, or block number or freeway… and all will be “Los Angeles”. It should be “Van Nuys” or “North Hollywood” or “Chatsworth”, etc.
 

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I’ve been using PulsPoint since the first day it went “live” here in Los Angeles. The one thing that really irritates me is how every location, no matter where in the City it is, is described as being in “Los Angeles”. It will give an address and street name, or block number or freeway… and all will be “Los Angeles”. It should be “Van Nuys” or “North Hollywood” or “Chatsworth”, etc.

It's because the Los Angeles Fire Department is responding to calls in the City of Los Angeles. Those other location names are not cities, they are neighborhoods or communities within Los Angeles. LAFD dispatch system and software does not recognize neighborhood names.
 

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It's because the Los Angeles Fire Department is responding to calls in the City of Los Angeles. Those other location names are not cities, they are neighborhoods or communities within Los Angeles. LAFD dispatch system and software does not recognize neighborhood names.

I don’t mean to argue, but I know it’s all “Los Angeles”. Fortunately, I know where most all of these streets are, in the city. I’m just saying it would be easier if it could be more specific.
 

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I don’t mean to argue, but I know it’s all “Los Angeles”. Fortunately, I know where most all of these streets are, in the city. I’m just saying it would be easier if it could be more specific.

The location info is coming from CAD which determines political/service jurisdiction rather than local neighborhood identification.
 
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