LAC- Porter Ranch

[trooperdude]

Cal-Fire Incident Command team 6 has been requested and activated for this incident.

Enroute from So. Ops.

Multiple Strike Teams Requested.

 

[SCPD]

LAC is the three letter designator for the LA County Fire Department and LFD for the L.A. City Fire Department. I thought the Porter Ranch area was in LFD jurisdiction.

I'm picking up, between the lines, and by looking at federal interagency dispatch center CAD's, that some incident management teams and other fire apparatus/crews had been prepositioned at South Ops and on the four southern California National Forests.

 

[DPD1]

This one really moved fast. There was about 400 cars trapped on the 118 at one point this morning and they all started scrambling backwards to get off the freeway. One car caught fire and for a while it looked like people were going to have to abandon their cars. Right now they're just trying to keep it from going all the way south into the Malibu mountains. Most of the Co. and City copters are on it, including the sky cranes. They also tried to get in the fixed wings this morning, but it was too windy. They just started in around 4, including the two scoopers, and I think they're going to bring in the DC-10. The fixed wings are taking water out of Castaic.

Dave
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[KD6DSI]

It's no surprise that this has blown up so quickly, and maybe the Angel Island fire, as well.

Dry air has increased the fire danger all around the state. We're in what I've taken to calling the October transition: high fire danger during the day, including red flag warnings, and frost advisories at night.

Here in SLO, the relative humidity dropped as low as 11% at 2 PM today, and our Chandler Burning Index has been at Extreme most of the day. We're "all the way up" to 19% at 5:30 PM

This screen grab is from about 11 AM and shows the CBI around the state.

At 5:30 PM, the humidity most places is still in the 20s, teens, and even a few in the single digits. That's desert dry...

 

[DrDenny1]

LAC is the three letter designator for the LA County Fire Department and LFD for the L.A. City Fire Department. I thought the Porter Ranch area was in LFD jurisdiction.

I'm picking up, between the lines, and by looking at federal interagency dispatch center CAD's, that some incident management teams and other fire apparatus/crews had been prepositioned at South Ops and on the four southern California National Forests.

LAFD and LACoFD have been working together on the Lake View Terrece and Oat Maounain and Porter Ranch fires. About 1330hrs a request went out for assistance from Ventura Co Fire for the PR fire.

 

[DPD1]

It's no surprise that this has blown up so quickly, and maybe the Angel Island fire, as well.

Dry air has increased the fire danger all around the state. We're in what I've taken to calling the October transition: high fire danger during the day, including red flag warnings, and frost advisories at night.

And all the arson nuts don't help either. Once one does it, they all go out and do it. An LAPD ship came in and helped them catch one arson suspect in Chatsworth this afternoon... How crazy does somebody have to be to go out in the middle of what's already a huge fire with crews and cops everywhere, and then try to light another fire.

Scattered houses have burned around the north end of the SF valley, but I don't think there's been any complete burn-outs yet. One of the structures lost was the old Nike Missile base buildings up near where the fire started. Those have made it through dozens of fires in the past, so that shows how strong it was.


Dave
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[KD6DSI]

I thought I posted this, but I guess I messed up

This must be the plume from the Porter Ranch fire:

 

[karldotcom]

Hearing a Culver City, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica Strike team, 1075A, doing radio checks on NIFC Tac 5, 166.725 @ 935pm
Comm Tech testing 168.075 NIFC C3 repeater at CP
Unk dozer team on CESRS 153.755

 

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Another interesting freq came up today for the first time (for me)...

168.6500 National Flight Following.

Tanker was taking to ANF asking where to go.

 

[LZJSR]

Sesnon Fire Comm Plan

Command: 159.15
Tac: 155.325
Branch IV Tac: 154.265
Air To Grnd: 161.52
LACoFD Logs: 470.4375
LAFD Tac: 858.7625 (162.2)
LAFD Command: 860.4375 (186.2)
Air Attack: 134.975 and 135.975
VCSO Company: 129.95
VCFD Tactical: 153.95
VCFD Command: 154.325
Staging at Conejo Creek Park (Janss Rd east of SR-23, Thousand Oaks)

 

[karldotcom]

They are doing a big demob at 4pm...if the wind dies down as forecast....

 

[DPD1]

Command: 159.15
Air To Grnd: 161.52

That's a weird choice... I'm getting bleed over from metrorail 161.505, but they are using it. 171.1375 is another new one. Looks like a decent flare-up over Granada Hills now.

Dave
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[kd6ecz]

For those of you who have Google Earth, I found the fire periemters in ESRI shapefile format for both the Sesnon and Marek fires. I converted them to KML for Google Earth if you'd like to see where the fires are. You need to change the file extension from txt to kml once you download the attached file and then open it in Googe Earth.

The file was time stamped last night at 9:55 so the fires are likely a bit larger now.

 

[Uplink]

For those of you who have Google Earth, I found the fire periemters in ESRI shapefile format for both the Sesnon and Marek fires. I converted them to KML for Google Earth if you'd like to see where the fires are. You need to change the file extension from txt to kml once you download the attached file and then open it in Googe Earth.

The file was time stamped last night at 9:55 so the fires are likely a bit larger now.

Nice Map, Very Cool, thanks

 

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Command: 159.15
Tac: 155.325
Branch IV Tac: 154.265
Air To Grnd: 161.52
LACoFD Logs: 470.4375
LAFD Tac: 858.7625 (162.2)
LAFD Command: 860.4375 (186.2)
Air Attack: 134.975 and 135.975
VCSO Company: 129.95
VCFD Tactical: 153.95
VCFD Command: 154.325
Staging at Conejo Creek Park (Janss Rd east of SR-23, Thousand Oaks)

I thought 161.520 was a RAILROAD frequency?, wonder how they came up with that one.???

 

[LZJSR]

Not sure why 161.52 was being used, but I heard it all day from my home. Also, I just heard Angeles advise the new Lead Plan that the new Air Tactics Frequency is 171.1375 and the new Air to Air frequency is 134.875.

 

[SCPD]

A comm unit leader I spoke with on a fire up here in August said that unused railroad frequencies were part of the pool of frequencies that could be used on large incidents. Each comm unit leader is issued a CD each year showing all the unallocated federal and railroad frequencies that can be assigned on incidents for tactical, air to air, and air to ground use. I hadn't heard of railroad frequencies being included until I heard it from him.

171.1375 and 134.875 are permanent assignments, the first as a national air tactics frequency (they can be used for air to ground as well) and 134.875 is a frequency assigned in California for air to air tactics.

 

[DPD1]

Seems like everything is cleaning up at this point... Yesterday there seemed to be more looky-loo air traffic than anything else... All the politicians wanting to go up and make a show of how much they care. There was one interesting flight that lead ID'd as a 412, which wanted to get cleared in to take a new repeater up to Oat Mt. I missed the reg so I couldn't look it up. Must have been something Co. or City related though, or maybe something more serious and they just called it a repeater. I know there's some pretty serious fed stuff up there. Other than that, there was one serious house fire in the area about midnight last night, which they seemed to think was from ambers left over from a day or so ago. A friend told me there's a lot of contractor guys staying at Camarillo. They did have some private 212s and Vertols working yesterday.

Dave
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[trooperdude]

A comm unit leader I spoke with on a fire up here in August said that unused railroad frequencies were part of the pool of frequencies that could be used on large incidents. Each comm unit leader is issued a CD each year showing all the unallocated federal and railroad frequencies that can be assigned on incidents for tactical, air to air, and air to ground use. I hadn't heard of railroad frequencies being included until I heard it from him.

I licensed an unused Railroad frequency as the repeater input for my department, so they are definitely on the table for re-use/re-allocation.

And they are nice and CLEAN.

 

[Mick]

Sure enough, I'm hearing fire related radio traffic on 161.52 this afternoon. In addition to a license for UPRR it is also licensed to Los Angeles County with WNUS602:
Eligibility
90.20 - THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO PROVIDE ITS OWN POLICE/FIRE PROTECTION. UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE FCC REGULATION GOVERNING POLICE RADIO SERVICE/FIRE PROTECTION SERVICE, THE COUNTY IS ELIGIBLE TO HOLD AUTHORIZ

Thanks for listing the frq LZJSR.

Not sure why 161.52 was being used, but I heard it all day from my home. Also, I just heard Angeles advise the new Lead Plan that the new Air Tactics Frequency is 171.1375 and the new Air to Air frequency is 134.875.