LADD - Alberta or Nationwide?

[kayn1n32008]

If your not helping to fix the issues, could you be perceived to helping to cause, or continue the problem?

I disagree with contributing info for free, and RR reselling it to other companies, I also dis agree with the whole streaming of radio comms with out consent.

Because of this, I will no longer help RR make money by my database contributions with out compensation.

We are all in this hobby together, why can't we all just get along???

I can get along, I just have a line in the sand I will no longer cross.


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[SCPD]

We are all in this hobby together, why can't we all just get along???

It is not an issue of just getting along. It is about the agenda that exists here at RR, that conflicts with what is best for the hobby.

The post above is 100% correct.

 

[thundermedic]

They way I understand it, Uniden paying for the RRDB allows RR to pay for the server, data centre rental, and bandwidth needed to host this forum and to help it not be completely overrun with adds.

The way I look at it, the more submissions, the better the experience for the new user who doesn't know what to program.

But back to the topic, Ladd freq should be in the areas where they are supposed to be used. I know some people who have used the DB to program radios.

IMHO the database should reflect not only what is in use, but what's in use that can be corroborated by a licence. That's why there is column for licenses.

As for the argument that they are used no different than CB/FRS/GMRS, it's important to note that in Canada none of these services require a licence, the Trucking frequencies and LMR radios using them do require a licence.

 

[SCPD]

They way I understand it, Uniden paying for the RRDB allows RR to pay for the server, data centre rental, and bandwidth needed to host this forum and to help it not be completely overrun with adds.

The way I look at it, the more submissions, the better the experience for the new user who doesn't know what to program.

But back to the topic, Ladd freq should be in the areas where they are supposed to be used. I know some people who have used the DB to program radios.

IMHO the database should reflect not only what is in use, but what's in use that can be corroborated by a licence. That's why there is column for licenses.

As for the argument that they are used no different than CB/FRS/GMRS, it's important to note that in Canada none of these services require a licence, the Trucking frequencies and LMR radios using them do require a licence.

At one point I did find how much money RR was making prior to the sale or license of the RR DB to Uniden and Whistler, It was profitable then and probably more so now

Your comment made me laugh " over run with ads " it's already over run with ads

 

[omrail]

be completely overrun with adds.

ads what ads?

The way I look at it, the more submissions, the better the experience for the new user who doesn't know what to program.

Would not keeping the local RCMP channels make it a much "better experience for the new user who doesn't know what to program'? Especially with the new downloadable database scanners which make it easier for new people to get into the hobby. RR would not be catering to any one manufacture but to both manufactures as both have this capability. That was one of my thoughts a few days ago when it happened but as the decision was made before any input from use users was asked for (not that is was taken) I did not wast my time.

 

[NDRADIONUT]

"IMHO the database should reflect not only what is in use, but what's in use that can be corroborated by a licence. That's why there is column for licenses."

So its now time to go around and delete any data without a callsign ???

 

[SCPD]

That would mean removal of "all" the RCMP listings in Alberta. Since it cannot be corroborated due to protected licensing. Time to remove all protected license information from the database. It is protected for a reason, not for public information. But yet it is still listed in the public domain on radio reference. So much contradicting, if only we would read what we post before posting it.

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[SCPD]

Sorry for going slightly off topic.

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[NDRADIONUT]

I submitted a request to remove those rcmp listings with no callsigns to be in line with the reason my lad request was rejected...

ticket #166894.

 

[NDRADIONUT]

In addition here is a company from Manitoba who has all of the lad freqs assigned to them from Manitoba west...
Looked for "MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT" in Manitoba... lic number 4981501

Tx Rx Location Licensee Details
153.05000 153.05000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697001
154.10000 154.10000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697002
154.32500 154.32500 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697003
158.94000 158.94000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697004
162.21000 162.21000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697005
163.05000 163.05000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697006
165.48000 165.48000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697007
166.62000 166.62000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697008
168.12000 168.12000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697009
173.37000 173.37000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697010

 

[NDRADIONUT]

Some for Ontario....

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES JOHN PERIVERSOFF 44035686002
158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES JOHN PERIVERSOFF 44035687002
158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES ALBERT DEE 44035853002
158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES ALBERT DEE 44035854002
158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES GORD MAITLAND 44035903002
158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES GORD MAITLAND 44035904002
158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES TERRANCE AMYOTTE 46035681001
158.94000 158.94000 SEELEY'S BAY, ON (CANADA WIDE) URMAS KURG 46035864009
158.94000 158.94000 SK, AB, NWT, BC GARRY A. TREBINSKIE 49039762002

 

[kayn1n32008]

In addition here is a company from Manitoba who has all of the lad freqs assigned to them from Manitoba west...

Looked for "MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT" in Manitoba... lic number 4981501



Tx Rx Location Licensee Details

153.05000 153.05000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697001

154.10000 154.10000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697002

154.32500 154.32500 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697003

158.94000 158.94000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697004

162.21000 162.21000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697005

163.05000 163.05000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697006

165.48000 165.48000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697007

166.62000 166.62000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697008

168.12000 168.12000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL

TRANSPORT 32057697009

173.37000 173.37000 MB, SK, AB, BC, NWT LES KELL OBO L. KELL TRANSPORT 32057697010

Holy crap. How about READING THE INDIVIDUAL FREQUENCY RESTRICTIONS ON THE ACTUAL LICENSE!

When you pull and READ the ACTUAL license for license number 4981501 you get:

And

And if you actually took the time to use virtual license, rather than http://tafl.mckie.ca/ and do a proper search, and knew how to interpret the results you would see that just because the license holder is in Manitoba, and includes Manitoba in his area of operation, you would see that ONLY 163.0500 is authorized for use in Manitoba.

Please stop talking about things you have ZERO understanding of. If you are going to insist on copying and pasting from a site that does not show you the frequency restriction, I will keep proving you wrong by doing screen captures of the ACTUAL licenses.


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[NDRADIONUT]

Ok they only use them where they are supposed to....

 

[kayn1n32008]

Here, I even highlighted the relevant parts of the license to help you comprehend where the basic ten frequencies are and are not allowed to be used.

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[kayn1n32008]

Ok they only use them where they are supposed to....

Holy crap... What do you not understand? You said they were licensed for use in Manitoba, they are not. Well only one can be used in Manitoba. Stop posting crap.


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[NDRADIONUT]

Ok they only use them where they are supposed to.... NOT !

They don't care about any restrictions and use them everywhere they go and the db should reflect that fact !

 

[kayn1n32008]

Ok they only use them where they are supposed to.... NOT !



They don't care about any restrictions and use them everywhere they go and the db should reflect that fact !

So let's start publishing all the 'freeband' frequencies then... Technically they are used even though their use is illegal...


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[NDRADIONUT]

the freqs in question are already published... just not nationwide as it should be....

 

[kayn1n32008]

Some for Ontario....



158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES JOHN PERIVERSOFF 44035686002

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES JOHN PERIVERSOFF 44035687002

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES ALBERT DEE 44035853002

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES ALBERT DEE 44035854002

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES GORD MAITLAND 44035903002

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES GORD MAITLAND 44035904002

158.94000 158.94000 VARIOUS PROVINCES TERRANCE AMYOTTE 46035681001

158.94000 158.94000 SEELEY'S BAY, ON (CANADA WIDE) URMAS KURG 46035864009

158.94000 158.94000 SK, AB, NWT, BC GARRY A. TREBINSKIE 49039762002

Again, go and look at the actual license... I'm betting the restrictions for EVERY SINGLE ONE YOU HAVE POSTED IS THE SAME AS THE LICENSE I JUST MARKED UP.
My guess is these guys operate their trucks out west, and have taken the time to get licensed properly for their use out here.


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[kayn1n32008]

the freqs in question are already published... just not nationwide as it should be....

But they are NOT a nation wide allocation by Industry Canada...


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