Lake County Ohio HELP

[falcon2950]

Lake county made some changes tody. I see in the new changes all the citys have a change and I dont here anything on my scanner now. I downloaded the latest file with my radioreference software I have always used to update. I am still not getting anything on my Pro 106.
Can anyone tell me what happened and what I need to do to get the new installed in my scanner???

 

[falcon2950]

I also see in the CVS file talk groups that are not in the files for updating the scanner in here. Could it be that the files just are not updated to update the scanners yet?? I'm scrambeling here,,,, spent alot of money on a scanner years ago and now its a paper weight for the time being.

 

[SCPD]

You need to go to the Ohio Forum. Check out http://forums.radioreference.com/oh...orum/175238-ohio-marcs-project-25-system.html

 

[falcon2950]

I went to Ohio MARCS,, So, I set my searc range from 750.00000 to 775.00000 and it isn't receiving any lake county transmit's. I figured I would just try a search range first to see if it picks anything up.

 

[SCPD]

I meant you could probably get more info and help from Ohio Forum members who have a GRE and are in or at least listen to Lake county. I don't have a GRE or live near Lake - I'm a couple counties south.

 

[Sportster77]

That explains why the live feed was dead last night.

 

[KC8ESL]

You need to go to the Ohio Forum. Check out http://forums.radioreference.com/oh...orum/175238-ohio-marcs-project-25-system.html

Ed, are you suggesting that Lake County is now lumped in with the Ohio MARCS system? From the looks of the article, this is a provisioned system though??

If so, that would make my trusty ol' Pro-96 a very light boat anchor.

Bottom line, do we know the new CC freqs for the Lake County Smartnet(or what used to be that system)?

 

[SCPD]

It is now here: Ohio MARCS-IP: Multi-Agency Radio Communications (P25) Trunking System, Various, Ohio - Scanner Frequencies
Not the "regular" MARCS system, the new P25 MARCS IP system as it's called.

 

[Sportster77]

KC8ESL
My Pro 2096 is still working on the Lake System with MARCS control channels programed in. Does get some garbled transmissions but for the most part not working too bad.

 

[KC8ESL]

KC8ESL
My Pro 2096 is still working on the Lake System with MARCS control channels programed in. Does get some garbled transmissions but for the most part not working too bad.

This would mean the new 700MHz system CC's?

My Pro-96 will not allow me to program 700MHz freqs into memory or search function.

If you mean the old MARCS off of the Willoughby tower or such, have the Decimal tags changed?

 

[SCPD]

The Lake County portion of the new MARCS IP P25 system is not 700 MHz frequencies. It's 800 MHz frequencies. Look at the link to the database Iin my post above. The frequencies are new and the talk groups are new. It has nothing to do with the MARCS 800 system (yet) and the old Lake Co. 800 is now not used (I guess).

 

[ptlm212]

I live in Eastlake and for the love of god not even radio shack can help me with my pro 96. Someone please help me with my radio.

 

[Redneck0410]

I live in Eastlake and for the love of god not even radio shack can help me with my pro 96. Someone please help me with my radio.

If you're trying to track the Lake County IP system, you're out of luck. It's Phase X2 TDMA which you will only be able to track with the GRE PSR-800. If you consult this link Lake County Trunking System, Lake County, Ohio - Scanner Frequencies make sure the frequencies listed here match what is in your scanner and make sure your scanner settings reflect a motorola system (I know nothing about the P25 settings as to what to tweak there) and I don't see why it wouldn't work.

 

[Sportster77]

I have a PRO-2096 (the base / mobile versio of the handheld 96) and it is still recieving the Lake county system ever since adding the new control channels into my LC bank several months ago and it is showing the new TGIDS. About 75% of the transmissions are heard w/o being garbled but it varies with location.

 

[SCPD]

If you're trying to track the Lake County IP system, you're out of luck. It's Phase X2 TDMA which you will only be able to track with the GRE PSR-800. .

Not quite true. They haven't fully implemented that phase (pun). A lot of us using Uniden and GRE/Radio Shack high end late units can monitor this P25 system. Look back in this thread http://forums.radioreference.com/oh...m/175238-ohio-marcs-ip-project-25-system.html

 

[ptlm212]

pro 96

So can the pro 96 still recieve lake county police?

 

[Redneck0410]

Not quite true. They haven't fully implemented that phase (pun). A lot of us using Uniden and GRE/Radio Shack high end late units can monitor this P25 system. Look back in this thread http://forums.radioreference.com/oh...m/175238-ohio-marcs-ip-project-25-system.html

My mistake, I rolled the dice and took a gamble, obviously I shot "craps".

 

[Redneck0410]

So can the pro 96 still recieve lake county police?

It would seem so. The 2096 is the base version of the one you have. Put in the new control channels and set your 96 to ID Scan and you're golden. Then you can determine what you want to listen to and edit your list as needed.

 

[KC8ESL]

So, is there any word on whether Lake/Geauga will ever move to the 700MHz band or will they stay 800MHz for the next "1x" years? Are the current radios capable of the switch? This confuses me because if this behaves like the old MARCS system, it is my understanding that when a radio no longer has support from the tower it is usually on it will jump to the next control channel it picks up and lock onto that system. if the Cuyahoga county system on on 76x.xxxxx and the Lake/Geauga systems are on 86x.xxxx...

It seems to me that physics won't allow this to be an efficient hand-off (antenna SWR mainly)...

UNLESS, the radios are equipped with diplexers AND are capable of such a wide tx window.

Am I overanalyzing the situation?

 

[budevans]

So, is there any word on whether Lake/Geauga will ever move to the 700MHz band or will they stay 800MHz for the next "1x" years? Are the current radios capable of the switch? This confuses me because if this behaves like the old MARCS system, it is my understanding that when a radio no longer has support from the tower it is usually on it will jump to the next control channel it picks up and lock onto that system. if the Cuyahoga county system on on 76x.xxxxx and the Lake/Geauga systems are on 86x.xxxx...

It seems to me that physics won't allow this to be an efficient hand-off (antenna SWR mainly)...

UNLESS, the radios are equipped with diplexers AND are capable of such a wide tx window.

Am I overanalyzing the situation?

You're overanalyzing.

Lake and Geauga Counties will remain on their P25 800 Mhz freq's for the foreseeable future.

Their current radio's are 800/700 Mhz capable. Both Lake and Geauga county users freely roam to the Cuyahoga P25 700Mhz MARCS - IP system.

For more detailed info, check out the Ohio MARCS-IP forum. You can view messages all the way back to the first setup of the MARCS Cuyahoga County P25 700 Mhz system.

FYI: The system towers transmit on 700 or 800 Mhz. The radio's in the field transmit on the low 800 Mhz range. So the field radio's have antenna's tuned for the low 800 Mhz (their transmit freq's). Receiving (high power) 700 or 800 isn't an issue for the field radio's.