Lancaster County - P25 System (Was OpenSky System Dumped)

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Is there any word about how some scanners will act on this system or best guess?

My 996xt has issues with simulcast in Dauphin county and am curious if Lancaster will be similar.
 

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Talk Groups so far:
100 Encryption capable
101
102 Encryption capable
120
168
210
1057
1130
2001 Encryption capable
2005
2006
2221
2224
3002
3003
3004
3007 Encrypted

Unit ID’s so far:
001
700
726
1001 Encryption heard
1005
1010
1015
1032
1037
1038
1051
1053
1056
1057
1060
1076
1077
1079
1080
2002
6691101
6691102
6691104
6691105
6691106
6691110
6691900
6691901
 

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subliminal87, i have the least amount of simulcast distortion after building a yagi for 700 mhz and blocking the other tower with metal screens for a window which i raise up high
 

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Talk Groups so far:
100 Encryption capable
101
102 Encryption capable
120
168
210
1057
1130
2001 Encryption capable
2005
2006
2221
2224
3002
3003
3004
3007 Encrypted

Unit ID’s so far:
001
700
726
1001 Encryption heard
1005
1010
1015
1032
1037
1038
1051
1053
1056
1057
1060
1076
1077
1079
1080
2002
6691101
6691102
6691104
6691105
6691106
6691110
6691900
6691901

How did you get some of the ID's? Just log what keyed up?

subliminal87, i have the least amount of simulcast distortion after building a yagi for 700 mhz and blocking the other tower with metal screens for a window which i raise up high

Thanks. What system is that for?
 

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I have to run down to Lancaster from Harrisburg to meet with a client this afternoon. I plugged the new Lancaster P25 system in with ID search enabled to see what I can pick up.
 

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I got copies of the Fleet Map, and Deployment list. Not too much happening on the deployment list. I was hoping they'd supply a list of every registered radio ID, since they have them.
 

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Here is information about radio ID's.

## Lancaster County 06
# Agency Type

1-Police
2-Fire
3-EMS
4-Hospitsl
5-EMA
6-LCWC

## Dept Number 2-digit department number (fire, police, ems dept numbers are available on the LCWC website)

### Varied Last three numbers vary for each department.

So for example we will use an EMS company station 86. They'll be using radio ID's with 06386-*** the last three are mixed to whatever. But aleast we'll have an idea of who is using what.
 

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*Even though it doesn’t have the talkgroup ID’s, but with this list they will be easier to determine. It is good to see that there will be dedicated medical consult talkgroups.
*The med channels could possibly be used as patch talkgroups to hospitals in neighboring counties.
*If I was an end user I would also like to see dedicated patches to neighboring EMS, fire, and law enforcement (i.e. Cecil, York, Chester, etc.)
*There are 4 dedicated secure talkgroups listed. I’ve monitored 3 that have been part-time encrypted and 7 that were full time encrypted.
*This list probably does not cover everything / all users. I understand that some information may have been kept FOUO.

There are also some questions that this generates:
1) what does the green highlighting over the med talkgroups represent? Possible full-time encryption?
2) will we see some dedicated ISC (interstation chat) and dedicated volunteer company talkgroups like Baltimore County and Harford County have, respectively?
3) what are the mystery (blank) talkgroups and zones? My observations with some public safety radios are that they require all channels to be filled - you can’t leave blanks when programming.
4) will there be dedicated all-call channels?

I would expect the system’s users to grow after it is initially implemented.

These documents are definitely a good start; nice work.
 

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*There are 4 dedicated secure talkgroups listed. I’ve monitored 3 that have been part-time encrypted and 7 that were full time encrypted.[/QUOTE]

100 Encryption capable
102 Encryption capable
2001 Encryption capable
2003 Encrypted
2905 Encrypted
2906 Encrypted
2925 Encrypted
3007 Encrypted
3008 Encrypted
3010 Encrypted
 

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*Even though it doesn’t have the talkgroup ID’s, but with this list they will be easier to determine. It is good to see that there will be dedicated medical consult talkgroups.
*The med channels could possibly be used as patch talkgroups to hospitals in neighboring counties.
*If I was an end user I would also like to see dedicated patches to neighboring EMS, fire, and law enforcement (i.e. Cecil, York, Chester, etc.)
*There are 4 dedicated secure talkgroups listed. I’ve monitored 3 that have been part-time encrypted and 7 that were full time encrypted.
*This list probably does not cover everything / all users. I understand that some information may have been kept FOUO.

There are also some questions that this generates:
1) what does the green highlighting over the med talkgroups represent? Possible full-time encryption?
2) will we see some dedicated ISC (interstation chat) and dedicated volunteer company talkgroups like Baltimore County and Harford County have, respectively?
3) what are the mystery (blank) talkgroups and zones? My observations with some public safety radios are that they require all channels to be filled - you can’t leave blanks when programming.
4) will there be dedicated all-call channels?

I would expect the system’s users to grow after it is initially implemented.

These documents are definitely a good start; nice work.

I am curious about the blank talk groups as well. Also what is FOUO?
*There are 4 dedicated secure talkgroups listed. I’ve monitored 3 that have been part-time encrypted and 7 that were full time encrypted.

100 Encryption capable
102 Encryption capable
2001 Encryption capable
2003 Encrypted
2905 Encrypted
2906 Encrypted
2925 Encrypted
3007 Encrypted
3008 Encrypted
3010 Encrypted[/QUOTE]


I am curious what all the encrypted ones are for? Also when looking at the fleet map, what exactly is COW? And has anyone else noticed, they clearly list "NW, NE, Central and South Failsoft" but those idividial channels are not listed. Unless they're under the "COW" part.
 

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So by going by the supplied list, and details about how the radio ID's shall work, here is a list I put together.


EMS ID’s

06301*** Ephrata Ambulance
06304*** Ephrata Hospital ALS
06306*** Lancaster EMS
06308*** Columbia QRS
06309*** Reinholds Ambulance
06317*** Reamstown Ambulance
06321*** Brickerville Ambulance
06324*** Rothsville Ambulance
06336*** Fivepointville Ambulance
06337*** New Holland Ambulance
06338*** Leola Ambulance
06343*** Gordonville Ambulance
06346*** Christiana Ambulance
06349 White Horse Ambulance
06353*** Conestoga Ambulance
06373*** Franklin and Marshall QRS
06377*** SVEMS
06382*** Manhiem Township Ambulance
06385*** Warwick Ambulance
06386*** Northwest EMS


Fire Department ID’s
06202*** Haz-mat
06203*** Martindale
06205*** Strasburg
06207***Mountville
06210*** Marietta
06211***Adamstown
06212*** Akron
06213 ***Denver
06214*** Durlach and Mount Airy
06215*** Ephrata
06216*** Lincoln
06217Reamstown *Note
06217 Smokestown *Note
06217 Stevens * Note
06218 Reinholds
Station 20 * Note
06221*** Brickerville
06222 *** Brunnerville
06223*** East Petersburg
06224*** Rothsville
06225*** Lititz
06226*** Manhiem
06227*** Mastersonville
06228*** Penryn
06229*** West Earl
06230*** Weaverland Valley
06231*** Bareville
06232*** Fivepointville
06233*** Bowmansville
06234*** Caernarvon
06235*** Farmersville
06239*** Garden Spot
06241*** Bird in hand
06242*** Gap
06243*** Gordonville
06244*** Intercourse
06245*** Kinzer
06247*** Paradise
06248*** Ronks
06249*** White Horse
06250 ***Willow Street
06251 ***Bart
06252 ***Christiana
06253 ***Conestoga
06254*** Lampeter
06255*** New Danville
06257*** Quarryville
06258*** Rawlinsville
06259*** Refton
06260*** West Willow
06261*** Upper Leacock
06262*** Witmer
06263*** Lafayette
06264*** Lancaster City
06266 ***Lancaster Township
06267*** Rohrerstown
06269*** Hempfield
06270*** Rheems
06271*** Bain Bridge
06274*** Elizabeth Town
06275*** Mount Joy
06276*** West Hempfield
06279*** Maytown
Station 80 Note
06289*** Robert Fulton
06290*** Blue Rock
06293*** Mount Joy Forest
06294*** Middle Creek
06295*** Keystone
06297*** Lancaster Airport

*NOTE Stations that have the same station numbers (Stations 17,20 and 80) Not sure how the radio ID’s will play out on that. *** Last three numbers of the radio can only be found once they key up.

I confirmed this setup of numbers with a registered radio and noticed how this was set up and based the rest of the ID's in that order.
 

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New update. This upload has the entire complete Police information. I couldn't upload the file since it's in excel.

Green Highlights are encrypted. So those green hospital channels people asked about are now answered.
 

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COW

COW = Cell on Wheels. It is basically a mobile repeater system with an extendable mast / antenna. I believe it can tie into the existing system via deploy-able links. It can be used for major events or emergencies, for disasters, and of course for system failures.
 

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COW = Cell on Wheels. It is basically a mobile repeater system with an extendable mast / antenna. I believe it can tie into the existing system via deploy-able links. It can be used for major events or emergencies, for disasters, and of course for system failures.

I think the portable site is WQRB831, FB2T
476.05
476.575
477.1
477.625

For the simplex frequencies, they could be hidden in the trunked channels, either with CTCSS, DCS, or a different NAC. Bucks County did something similar for their non-trunked 500 Mhz frequencies.
 

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COW = Cell on Wheels. It is basically a mobile repeater system with an extendable mast / antenna. I believe it can tie into the existing system via deploy-able links. It can be used for major events or emergencies, for disasters, and of course for system failures.

Thanks.
 

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LCWC did deploy some type of portable communications trailer as well as FieldComm 91 to Ephrata on 11-12 Sept 2014 to provide support during the barricade situation there. I was on my way home from work and stopped to get fuel when Mobile Command 91 stopped at the same station to tank up, with just the driver on board. I recognized the trailer from incident footage as it went by on 322, towed by an SUV. It is dark blue in color with a gray / silver roof and a stowed crank-up tower resting on top. It looks like the type of trailer you'd use to move a small race car and support equipment and isn't currently marked. I don't know that they'd deploy the trunked cell if no one is really using the system yet but the COW could be transported and deployed in a similar fashion.
 

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If the general scheme is followed with other agencies then

06112nnn County Sheriff

06114nnn Parks Department

06116nnn Manor Twp. Police

06117nnn Millersville Borough Police

06119nnn East Hempfield Twp. Police

06121nnn Strasburg Borough Police

06123nnn Southern Regional Police

06124nnn Elizabethtown Borough Police

06125nnn Lititz Borough Police

06126nnn West Lampeter Twp. Police

06127nnn Susquehanna Regional Police

06128nnn Quarryville Borough Police

06133nnn Mount Joy Borough Police

06134nnn Manheim Borough Police

06135nnn Northwest Regional Police

06139nnn West Hempfield Twp. Police

06142nnn Lancaster City Police

06143nnn Christiana Borough Police

06148nnn East Lampeter Twp. Police

06151nnn Manheim Township Police

06162nnn Columbia Borough Police

06172nnn Akron Borough Police

06178nnn East Cocalico Twp. Police

06179nnn East Earl Township Police

06182nnn Ephrata Police

06184nnn New Holland Borough Police

06186nnn Northern Lancaster Co Regional Police

06188nnn West Earl Township Police

06191nnn Lancaster County-Wide Communications

06192nnn Lancaster County Coroner's Office

06193nnn Millersville University Police

06194nnn Franklin & Marshall College Public Safety

06196nnn PA Game Commission

06197nnn PA Fish Commission

06198nnn FBI

Not sure what numbering system public works will be using but it could be based off of the township and borough numbers with a different 3rd digit
 

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Received from Kinzers / Gap area:

477.2125 NAC D66 R001 S001 SysID 92763
477.8125 NAC D63 R001 S004 SysID 92763
477.85 NAC D65 R001 S002 SysID 92763
478.8625 NAC D64 R001 S003 SysID 92763
 
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