RFEngineering101
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Did Motorola protest? Maybe that's the hold up.
Lancaster County - P25 System (Was OpenSky System Dumped)
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Did Motorola protest? Maybe that's the hold up.
From what I have been told, TAIT is the radio of choice and some company out of Allentown (Tuway Communications) I believe is the official installer of the radios.
Do you think this far into they will go Phase 2 or stick to Phase 1.
Also have you heard anything encryption wise? I know a few people who said they have been told it WILL be encrypted even though they said no it wont be. Then I was told it may be up to each department if they want encryption.
RFEngineering101
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Lanco bought some Tait mobiles through a grant program and Tuway is the official sales arm of Tait radios in PA.. Hence the install piece falling into their laps.
But Tait is apparently not the radio of choice in Lancaster after all.
Relm? Yowza...
Relm Wireless, ARINC partner on radio contract - Orlando Business Journal
I can tell you that TUWAY Communications have been busy going around to different Fire Departments throughout the county and getting measurements for placement of radios in Fire Apparatus. They stated that they were to measure for Tait radios....
So I tagged along with someone to the EMS thing at the training center. inside Haz-MAT there are some low band radios and then some other ones.
Anyone know what system they are used for? I attached a picture of it.
The specs state :
"Frequency range
VHF: 136–162, 146–174MHz; UHF: 403-440, 438-470, 465-495MHz"
They had other radios marked low band, and had a decent amount of these.
Anyone know what system they are used for? I attached a picture of it.
The specs state :
"Frequency range
VHF: 136–162, 146–174MHz; UHF: 403-440, 438-470, 465-495MHz"
They had other radios marked low band, and had a decent amount of these.
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The PR400 is analog conventional/LTR capable. The radio is single band, so it would only be capable of one of those listed frequency ranges/splits.
That looks like a VHF antenna, so they're probably just regular old analog conventional VHF radios...nothing special.
SouthJerseyJohnny
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Re: Lancaster Area
I'm aware of the OpenSky issue but I will be out that way next month for a week or two and want to know if the Lancaster area is still on VHF Hi-Band or have they moved elsewhere?
I'm aware of the OpenSky issue but I will be out that way next month for a week or two and want to know if the Lancaster area is still on VHF Hi-Band or have they moved elsewhere?
NodrogCop
Member
Lancaster County police units are still on VHF Hi, and Fire/EMS is still on Low Band.
Gordon
I went in and deleted the opensky system from the lancaster pages. Hopefully this will cease the questions regarding whether the system is active or not as it has been confirmed to be scrapped. We can create a new system when it is decided what that will be.
Frank
Frank
Lancaster County PA New System information
This information is directly from the LCWC Website and their Youtube page. Very nicely done if you ask me.
Link to their website: LCWC: Radio System
Link to videos: Video 2 - Radio System Requirements - YouTube
Video 1 - Why a New Radio System? - YouTube
This information is directly from the LCWC Website and their Youtube page. Very nicely done if you ask me.
Link to their website: LCWC: Radio System
Link to videos: Video 2 - Radio System Requirements - YouTube
Video 1 - Why a New Radio System? - YouTube
I live in the wrong county. Period. Thank you LCWC, for doing this right.
I must of missed something...Lancaster is the same system York and Dauphin have, just a different manufacturer...
Matt..what is Lancaster doing any different than York?... Making better videos?? LOL
Matt..what is Lancaster doing any different than York?... Making better videos?? LOL
They are different from Dauphin, which got suckered into a clause in their 3 year system maitnence plan with motorola that only allows moto radios on the infrastructure while its under maitnence and tech support contract.
I do not think York is legally locked into Harris mobiles and hh's but just choose to have all harris radios on the system.
Lancaster's goal is to make a system that actually has many different venders radios used together, which is rarely done on county trs's. They are trying to make up for the mess that was caused from the opensky island mess. they are pushing the "open standard' concept strongly this time around.
I do not think York is legally locked into Harris mobiles and hh's but just choose to have all harris radios on the system.
Lancaster's goal is to make a system that actually has many different venders radios used together, which is rarely done on county trs's. They are trying to make up for the mess that was caused from the opensky island mess. they are pushing the "open standard' concept strongly this time around.
York either has or will very soon have Motorola portables loaded. And I believe they've had some Kenwoods for a while.
And I believe there are at least a handful of York Harris radios that have access to Dauphin's system, such as Fairview and Defense Logistics.
On another note, is there any talk of what will become of fire/EMS paging in Lancaster with the new system? I'm assuming they're looking to move on from 33.90. Will is be a VHF or UHF tone/voice, or alphanumeric?
York has been open to ANY radio that met the spec's apporved by the Communications committee.. That included Kenwood, EF Johnson, Datron.. Motorola did NOT meet the spec due to the way the emergency button worked.. the committee saw the difference enough to "turn a TOOL into a TOY".. Moto's ability to clear the emergency without any dispatcher input was viewed as an officer safety issue..
York has always allowed and WELCOMED P25 radios from other manufactures..
York has always allowed and WELCOMED P25 radios from other manufactures..
Dauphin does not allow any other manufactures radios due to the inability to be OTR'd (over the air rekey).. Moto uses their own system key structure which no other manufacturer uses...Thus, no rekeying, no ability to be on the system (per Dave Murdoch)
It hasn't been talked about lately. However it wasn't said in the videos at all. When they first talked about the new system they said no encryption. Now depending on who you talk to people say no encryption, full encryption. Or police wide encryption. County is kind of keeping people in the dark about it. They talked about it once and that was it.
daneg
Member
Did anyone else listen to the PSP/East Earl op yesterday morning from 9am to around 930am.
East Earl PD didn't seem like they had any communications with PSP and the "Patch" that was set up. County stated the patch was up. 79-1 Called out to PSP multiple times and nothing.
79-1 States "Suspect in custody"
County: "I had PSP on the phone, t hey are stating he is not in custody"
Sounded like a cluster with the POS system we have now.
East Earl PD didn't seem like they had any communications with PSP and the "Patch" that was set up. County stated the patch was up. 79-1 Called out to PSP multiple times and nothing.
79-1 States "Suspect in custody"
County: "I had PSP on the phone, t hey are stating he is not in custody"
Sounded like a cluster with the POS system we have now.
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