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brueger,

Not that I am aware of. The list on Jerimah's page is the one I sent in awhile back. The list in the RR Database here is a subset of that list. Though I don't work all that far from Langley, I just don't have the time to sit and track talk groups at work.

Though I did listen in last week while they were getting back up and running after the snow. I did get some talk groups that day, but the list is at the office. I know the snow removal talk group was real busy as was the CE TG.

As I don't know the mainteance structure there, I haven't can't get a good handle on which TG belongs to a specific squadron versus which are common (like fuel, AGE, munitions and some of the really specialized maintenance shops).
 

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Tks

Lynn,

Tks for the info. I have been wanting to monitor LAFB more also but have not had the time.

I am retired USAF, but I was a communicator and am not too familiar with the maintenance structures. I have caught some talk that sounded like IT installations.

Later

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brueger,

Some of the talk groups in the 17XXX range seem to be comm related. Telephone repair, computer network and radio comm. Heard one the other day talking about doing some antenna work. By the time I looked over, the scanner was doing just that, scanning.

If you want to hear stuff and get some new numbers. I heard that the base may be having an exercise in the next couple of weeks.

Like you, I'm retired AF, and spent most of my time in AC maintenance. So I enjoy listening to the flight line operations. Things really haven't changed since I retired !% years ago. The first programmable scanners were just coming out as I was getting moving off the line into the 'office' environment. Wish I could of had one when I was working the line. The old tunable radios just weren't up to the job.

My first programmable was a Regency desk/mobile 30 channel. Nice, but not good for walking on the line. I got a BC-100 when they came out and I had to reporgram it at least twice a day. Once when I got to work to listen to the base and once as I left to pick up the local members of LE. For you newer scanner users, the BC-100 was the first programmable HANDHELD, that came out in about 1982. 16 channels, odd thread screw in antenna, poor audio, volitale memory (my battery case base would occasionally disconnect and I'd have to reenter my freqs), no 800 coverage (BC-200/205 got that honor, but then 800 was still new in those days and cell phones cost a couple of THOUSAND dollars [and those were the GOOD OLD DAYS??? :)])

Well maybe they were good. No digital, no in car computers for LE, so everything came across the radio. Finding freqs was fairly easy as the VHF and UHF bands were organized (to some point) into groups.

Still I'd rather have my 246 than my 100 anyday. And the RR database is better than Police Call ever thought of being. :)

Maybe this thread should become 'war stories' :)
 

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I don't have any new talk groups, but I am listening to Langley right now and they seem to be having an exercise. So if anyone with a digital scanner, some time and in reange might want to listen in and see if they can find something new or ID some fo the blanks that are posted on

http://members.cox.net/jeremiahtoth/lafb.html

I have found one new TG, 19440, seems to be the Mobility Control Center (MCC) or at least something to do with the MCC.
 

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Well while sitting through a couple of LOOOOONNNNNGGG teleconferences yesterday, I was able to jot down TGID's for Langley. Found a couple of new TGs though I havn't benn able to determine exactly what they are. Also heard a couple of TGs I found earlier but couldn't identify (still can't for that matter).

I am posting the new IDs here and I'll send them to Lindsey when the exercise is over. Just an aside here. Those of us with digital scanners know the twangy sound digital audio seems to have. I'll tell it gets worse when the people transmitting are talking through a gas mask :)

There are some TGIDs here I don't have a cluse as to who they are. I heard them transmit maybe twice. They are active, but just barely. I'll send these to Lindsey as well, but as he does not post unidentified IDs, they may not make the list.

So here we go:

17520 - heard a call sign of "sledgehammer" and this was fairly active during the exercise.

18544 - Didn't hear this all that often but it sounded like some kind of maintenance.

18992 - Heard a request for an airfield electriciian, so this could be a civil engineer (CE) talk group. not a lot of activity on this one.

19024 - Heard some transmissions, only one or two, but this was active.

19248 - This one was real busy yesterday, seems to be some kind of exercise control center or something. Everything discussed was related to the exercise.

19440 - Reported this one in my previous post. I think it is the MCC. They are quiet now as mobilty processing seems to be over.

There were some previously ID'd maintenance TG's that were quiet during the exercise. I don't keep track of the deployments of units, but I wouldn't be surprised that at least one squadron from Langley is deployed to either Iraq or Afghanistan. Those guys would love to have been in the exercise, it's play. To those deployed, come home safe and soon.
 

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Hey folks, I sent Lindsey some updated talk groups and they were posted yesterday. The new ones I did hear, but couldn't always verify what they were. So any help would be appriciated.
 

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Brian,

I don't know how I missed this feed, but you and Lynn have me logging data.

LEH said:
Hey folks, I sent Lindsey some updated talk groups and they were posted yesterday. The new ones I did hear, but couldn't always verify what they were. So any help would be appriciated.
Nice update Lynn, I'm getting a lot of unlisted TG's. But they talk so fast that I miss anything other than aircraft such and such etc.

earlier LEH said:
Maybe this thread should become 'war stories' :)
Ok with this retired old salt, but we in the navy could never streach the truth like you airforce types. :lol:
 

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Frank,

Take a look at the Hampton Roads Scanner page under Langely. Brian posted the link in his first post this thread. When I got my 250 whenever it was, I started tracking Langely. I got lots of talk groups, some I've never heard since. I think I had a setting wrong and the 250 wasn't tracking right. Anyway, see if any of your talk groups compare to my first list.

From the looks of things, TGs in the 18XXX range seem to be flight line related (maintenance, ground control for ramp vehicles, etc), the 17XXX group seems to belong to the comm group and the 16XXX group is CE and SP. Very general and there are some exceptions, but that seems to be the trend.

As to war stories, I worked for NNS for a while and there were numerous retired Navy persons working there as well. Their war stories consistenly out shown anything I've heard from any other service. :lol:
 

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Frank,

Take a look at the Hampton Roads Scanner page under Langely. Brian posted the link in his first post this thread. When I got my 250 whenever it was, I started tracking Langely. I got lots of talk groups, some I've never heard since. I think I had a setting wrong and the 250 wasn't tracking right. Anyway, see if any of your talk groups compare to my first list.

From the looks of things, TGs in the 18XXX range seem to be flight line related (maintenance, ground control for ramp vehicles, etc), the 17XXX group seems to belong to the comm group and the 16XXX group is CE and SP. Very general and there are some exceptions, but that seems to be the trend.

As to war stories, I worked for NNS for a while and there were numerous retired Navy persons working there as well. Their war stories consistenly out shown anything I've heard from any other service. :lol:
 

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LEH said:
Frank,

Take a look at the Hampton Roads Scanner page under Langely. Brian posted the link in his first post this thread. When I got my 250 whenever it was, I started tracking Langely. I got lots of talk groups, some I've never heard since. I think I had a setting wrong and the 250 wasn't tracking right. Anyway, see if any of your talk groups compare to my first list.
That page on Langley is neat also, your narrative and the additions are excellent. You, David and Jack have really brought Langley back to life for scanners. Hope the Commander doesn't get the same idea the Moody Commander did. :cry: But Lindsay salvage something anyway, and us warriors should admire that he honors their request.

continue LEH said:
From the looks of things, TGs in the 18XXX range seem to be flight line related (maintenance, ground control for ramp vehicles, etc), the 17XXX group seems to belong to the comm group and the 16XXX group is CE and SP. Very general and there are some exceptions, but that seems to be the trend.
It appears to be a pattern, I've copied the list from Jeremiahs' Langley page and pasted to the csv file which I ran for 1 & 1/2 hours this evening. Got 415 hits to compare. Thanks for the :arrow:

:P In her first sea story said:
As to war stories, I worked for NNS for a while and there were numerous retired Navy persons working there as well. Their war stories consistenly out shown anything I've heard from any other service. :lol:
I find this hard to believe. :wink:
 

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Frank,

Previously Frank wrote about me.

":p In her first sea story, Lynn"

Just don't start getting fresh here. I'm not a member of "The Village People" , but I am 6'3", 210, bald with a grey beard. :D

Don't let this get to you, you're not the first to mistake my sex based on my name. You want a war story, try this for size (and I had the letter until my last move to back this up). :(

Now this ain't no BS.

My name has gotten me the best job offer, that I never applied for, one could ever want.

Oct 1981, I was reassigned to Columbus AFB, MS. Columbus is a fairly small town in east central Mississiippi. Two things in Columbus, the air force base and a state run university, Mississippi University for Women (MUW, keep this in mind).

Well as is obvious, my name is not all that common (both first and last), so when I got into my apartment, and got a phone book, I checked to see how many other people with my last name were in the phone book (there are only six in the local phone book here). Surprise, I'm already listed, but the number isn't mine.

Well, I am a somewhat curteous guy (also single and unattached) so I call this other Lynn in the phone book. A girl answers and I ask for Lynn. The girl tells me Lynn has gone back home to attend school at her local Junior College. Well I intorduce myself and explain the situation so this girl won't be surprised if the phone rings for SGT XXXX.

As time goes on, I am taking classes towards my degree on the base. Well a miricale occurs. MUW loses a reverse discrimination law suit in the US Supremee Court. As a state run college, they cannot discriminate on admissions. So here is an ALL GIRL school, two miles from my apartment now open for men. Well of course I enrolled.

About six months later, I start getting strange phone calls. My girl friend answers the phone and some guy asks for Lynn. She hands the phone to me, I say "Hello" and hear a click BZZZZZ (dial tone).

Well the third call like this, light goes off. I call information and ask for the number Lynn XXXX who DOES NOT live at my address. The operator gives me a number.

I dial the number and ask for Lynn. She gets on the phone and I introduce myself, explain the situation and tell her to let her boy friend(s) know that the Lynn XXXX in the phone book is not her. We have a good laugh and that's that (well almost). Anyway, Lynn is back at MUW (the plot is thickening even if it isn't obvious).

Well time goes on and I get my orders to go to Germany. I had not attended a class in a semester because of other things. So my last day in town, I am turning in the keys to the apartment and I check the mail one last time.

In the mail box, addressed to me is a letter from MUW. Well, I think that this has to be a requiest for me to come back and give them more money for classes. Nope.

I open the letter and there is is in black and white.

"Congratulations, you have been selected as a floor manager in the dorms for the next school year."

DREAM JOB, LADIES WE WILL HAVE BED CHECKS.

Seems MUW got names and addresses mixed up and sent me the other Lynn's acceptance (MUW did not have a mens dorm). But still was a neat offer. The commute would have been a bit long though.
 

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:shock: ing me said:
Just don't start getting fresh here. I'm not a member of "The Village People" , but I am 6'3", 210, bald with a grey beard.
Gulp :oops:.

and continuing said:
"Congratulations, you have been selected as a floor manager in the dorms for the next school year."

DREAM JOB, LADIES WE WILL HAVE BED CHECKS.

Seems MUW got names and addresses mixed up and sent me the other Lynn's acceptance (MUW did not have a mens dorm). But still was a neat offer. The commute would have been a bit long though.
A sailor would have packed a sea bag and moved in. :lol:

Great story, I bet you have had problems but a lot of fun, with your first name. :wink:

Edit: BTW, I matched a few LAFB TG's with your list, but with many unknowns remaining in my log yesterday. In my list of 415 hits, about 60 were freqs, re-acquiring the CC and several were I-Call ID's but even though someone was talking at the time of the recorded data, I doubt it was an I-call. Using a BC785D.
 

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LEH said:
I am posting the new IDs here and I'll send them to Lindsey when the exercise is over. Just an aside here. Those of us with digital scanners know the twangy sound digital audio seems to have. I'll tell it gets worse when the people transmitting are talking through a gas mask :)

This is exactly why I do not even bother with my site anymore. Everyone wants to use the info from it and then not help contribute to it once they make any discoveries. I am far too busy to constantly find out new talkgroups for all the systems listed. Oh well, I'm worried about it. The site will likely dissapear when I delete my current cox email account, since email and webspace are tied together.
 

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I would be williing to take over the site if necessary to provide data and share what talkgroups I find, but you dont have to be an ******* about it!!!
 

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jeremiah,

I would have submitted the updated talk list groups to you as well. However when there have been no updates in nearly two years, I figured the board had died.

THere are a lot of people out there who just utilize the system. Then there the few who will help and contribute. Webmaster is a thankless job for all the work that goes into it.

And by the way I am the one who provided your board (just before you took over [sic]) with the Langely talk groups and discussion on the typical base setup. So don't please DO NOT IMPLY that I do not contribute.
 
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