Las Cruces EDACS/P25

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Mesilla Fire has used non-encrypted talkgroups in the past, but it seems like ages since I've heard them on the air.

I posted that earlier this month, then this morning, Sunday, June 28, I hear on DTRS: "Mesilla Fire, Mesilla Fire. Training only. Training only." That was an hour ago, and it's still ongoing.
 

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Police EDACS channels were used to coordinate the 2026 Las Cruces Electric Light Parade. The radio traffic was EDACS-only, though; the calls did not appear on the P25 system.

It sounded like LCPD Event 1 (330/02-092) was referred to as "Channel 10", and there was a reference to "Channel 11" to be used by parade judges. Channel 11 wound up not working, though.

I was reminded of something I heard on DTRS around two years ago. It went something like: "We'll use Channel Eleven. That's available" which was almost immediately followed by "I don't want to be 'That Guy', but our radios only go up to ten".

 

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Yes, there are occasional problems with channel 1, so dispatch will announce that channel 2 will be used for channel 1 calls.

LCPD Channel 1, Central Dispatch, 353/02-121, has been effectively missing from the EDACS system for a week now.

Sometime after 8:30pm on Sunday, July 5, Channel 1 just plain stopped working, so Central Dispatch switched to "Channel 3". During the switch, a "gateway" was mentioned, so that answers my question regarding whether or not one was in use. Radio Shop tests were on the air shortly thereafter. (Nothing like getting called in to work Sunday night on a holiday weekend!)

On Monday morning, dispatch was still on Channel 3, so I fired up an instance of dsd-fme to start logging EDACS calls. Channel 1 was restored to the P25 system shortly after 12pm, but not to EDACS. Since then, fewer than two dozen Channel 1 calls have appeared in the logs, and I suspect those were all Radio Shop tests. Other LCPD Talkgroups were logged as usual.

SDRTrunk continues to pick up new P25 talkgroups, but nothing that wasn't already in the database for EDACS.


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After many years of listening to LCPD on EDACS, I gave in and loaded the P25 into my BCD325P2 and and found all three active channels in use. The volume for the P25 is majorly higher than the EDACS volume. Can't explain that. Channel 2 and 3 still multi-transmitting on EDACS. Don't know how long that will last. I was glad to hear channel 1 again.
 

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Channel 2 and 3 still multi-transmitting on EDACS. Don't know how long that will last.

Yes, SDRTrunk is still showing the "PATROL-2" EDACS gateway alias (or whatever it's called). There are LCPD personnel who use Channel 2 almost exclusively: Animal Control Officers, Codes Officers, Park Rangers, Service Aides, (there may be others) and I take it this means the P25 radios haven't fully rolled out to this group.

There is also the Fleet Call on Talkgroup 11352, but it's not in the database. The alias appears as "-PATROL-", or "-PATROL" with the last character missing, which is apparently a thing on Harris systems.
 

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The City of Las Cruces is still using both EDACS and P25. SDRTrunk has never identified any patches on P25, which leads me to wonder if a migration gateway (which I learned about in these forums) is in use.
The P25 system appears to be L3Harris, so I'd almost wager a month's wages that is exactly what they are using.
 

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There was a drastic decrease in the number of LCPD EDACS calls logged by dsd-fme, starting around 8:17am on Wednesday, July 29.

It's obviously too early to tell if this decrease is significant. Fleet Calls, such as shift change announcements, are still used on a regular basis, and still appear on both EDACS and P25.
 

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I no longer hear EDACS for LCPD, but all the other channels on P25 are now active. 1,2,3, 5 are active.
 

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Las Cruces is moving towards sun setting their EDACS system and purchased a Harris P25 system to replace it.
 

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Las Cruces is moving towards sun setting their EDACS system and purchased a Harris P25 system to replace it.
The in house radio shop had a good run keeping the edacs alive and had got spare parts and equipment I recall back in day. Id imagine the same is being done for the harris system.
 

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EDACS is still going, though the active channels seem to be almost all Las Cruces Utilities.

One talkgroup I haven't heard in months, though, is 471/03-107, referred to on-air as "the landfill channel". I believe these radios were in use at the Corralitos Regional Landfill, based on constant updates regarding walking floor trucks, and references to disposal of dead livestock.

Now I'm wondering if the landfill switched to a county talkgroup on DTRS, and I just can't hear it. The landfill is located close to the SNMCF Site, so the radios may not even affiliate with the A Mountain Site I monitor. Aiden Hills might even be closer to the landfill than A Mountain.

I guess I could always drive out there with a scanner.
 

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EDACS is still going, though the active channels seem to be almost all Las Cruces Utilities.

One talkgroup I haven't heard in months, though, is 471/03-107, referred to on-air as "the landfill channel". I believe these radios were in use at the Corralitos Regional Landfill, based on constant updates regarding walking floor trucks, and references to disposal of dead livestock.

Now I'm wondering if the landfill switched to a county talkgroup on DTRS, and I just can't hear it. The landfill is located close to the SNMCF Site, so the radios may not even affiliate with the A Mountain Site I monitor. Aiden Hills might even be closer to the landfill than A Mountain.

I guess I could always drive out there with a scanner.
It wouldn't surprise me if they are encrypted as the county road shop is encrypted.
 

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It wouldn't surprise me if they are encrypted as the county road shop is encrypted.

Agreed! Of course, I should still see the talkgroup ID pop up on SDRTrunk if their radios affiliate, though.

County roads was unencrypted for at least several days recently. I heard at least one crack about "$5,000 radios".
 
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