Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department radio traffic?

[car55]

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department radio traffic?

What is wrong with Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department ? The live scanner feeds ? The radio is dead !!

Only 3 calls in hour !! Is the live scanner feeds not working ? Why are they not dispatching calls ?

 

[KB1UAM]

According to the wiki the la's Vegas metropolitan police are currently in the testing phases of a new open sky system, maybe they are over there today. Once they switch to that system you will no longer be able to hear that cities police Dept anymore

 

[bryan_herbert]

They switched to OpenSky and turned off the VHF patches a few months ago.

 

[vinzep491]

They switched to OpenSky and turned off the VHF patches a few months ago.

I am not in the area so I do not want to speak and look stupid, but multiple current posts I have have been reading indicate that this is incorrect, and that the vhf patches are still indefinitly active.

I do not believe they have been turned off yet.

 

[car55]

Here is what I found.

Here is list of Frequency and codes that they use http://www.freqofnature.com/frequencies/nv/clark/lasvegas.html

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has the city broken into 9 dispatch zones .By the looks of it you need all 9 frequencies to hear dispatch for all of the areas.


Ch-2 Southeast 159.0900
Ch-3 Southwest 158.9700
Ch-4 Downtown 158.7450
Ch-5 Northeast 159.2100
Ch-6 Northwest 159.0300


Ch-8 Bolden 159.1050
Ch-9 S. Central 158.7900

Ch-13 Laughlin D 159.1500
Ch-14 Laughlin T 159.0900


There are other frequencies like car to car and tactical so on !! But the 9 frequencies is what they seem to use for dispatch.

There is map on that web site showing the area commands.So base on where you live you may be in Northwest command area or Bolden command area so on .

You have to check the map to show the area command boundaries to see where you live and make sure you have the frequency of that command area you live in to hear the calls in your area or if you want to hear all areas you need 9 dispatch frequencies program in..

 

[bryan_herbert]

Tracy no longer maintains Freq of Nature and quite a bit of the data on that site is outdated. In fact, if you go to the front page you'll see it was last updated in 2009.

 

[bryan_herbert]

Disregard, double post

 

[vinzep491]

They switched to OpenSky and turned off the VHF patches a few months ago.

Just today there was a new thread started stemming from a swat op that was being monitored. Last week i recall a thread discussingthe still functional simulcast.


Can a local confirm, i am reading conflicting accounts.

 

[Dick33]

Yes most VHF channels are still be simulcasted.

 

[Hooligan]

They switched to OpenSky and turned off the VHF patches a few months ago.

That's utter BS, Bryan. Why would you respond & pass misinformation, when you obviously don't know??? Some of the special units/TAC stuff is now Desert Sky (the LVMPD Open Sky system) only, but most of the dispatch stuff is still simulcast on VHF & occasionally there's some interesting tactical traffic that's knowingly or unknowingly on the old VHF channels.

 

[brianearlspilner]

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They switched to OpenSky and turned off the VHF patches a few months ago.

That's utter BS, Bryan. Why would you respond & pass misinformation, when you obviously don't know??? Some of the special units/TAC stuff is now Desert Sky (the LVMPD Open Sky system) only, but most of the dispatch stuff is still simulcast on VHF & occasionally there's some interesting tactical traffic that's knowingly or unknowingly on the old VHF channels.

Which is exactly why I leave these threads to the locals.

 

[crazynova]

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department radio traffic?

What is wrong with Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department ? The live scanner feeds ? The radio is dead !!

Only 3 calls in hour !! Is the live scanner feeds not working ? Why are they not dispatching calls ?

The entire department isn't on the same channel. Some channels aren't too busy and don't have a whole lot of traffic.

 

[monitor142]

I'll confirm that the DesertSky area dispatch talkgroups are still patched to the VHF system. I was there for business Mon-Wed (5/21 through 5/23) and monitored them on my PSR800.

I will note that I hope the digital audio and performance is better than what I was hearing on the patch. I heard a lot of transmissions go out of sync and it was unintelligible. My gut tells me that this is an issue since I would hear the dispatchers ask the units to repeat their traffic. When the officers were in a good area of coverage it sounded fine.

Pretty sad that all that money was spent on D/S when SNACC works so well. The funding spent on the OpenSky system could have kick started a significant portion of P25 upgrades to SNACC. Heck they could have bought a SmartX core and used the D/S 700 spectrum to start P25 cells.

My 2 cents...

-M142

 

[bfperez]

I notice it whenever I monitor. There's always calls that stutter ah-ah-ah-ah-ah. I don't if that's how it sounds to other D/S users, but that's how it sounds on the VHF patch. The dispatchers routinely have to ask them to repeat.

LVMPD is the only agency I hear that has to repeat so much traffic. Nothing on SNACC or NSRS comes close, even all put together. That could be a consequence of the size of the area or the layout of the cells, but either way I would think it's unacceptable.

I remember reading somewhere that Metro had a beef with Motorola and that might explain them not joining SNACC (don't know if that applies to breaking ground on the SNACC P25 system as well).

It's funny to hear NHP TAC channels where a (presumably) supervisor asks the trooper, "Do you have a Metro radio?" Trooper replies in the affirmative, then there's usually a back and forth about which channels to use, etc. I realize that a similar conversation would probably happen if NHP was working with one of the agencies on SNACC, BUT it's amusing and sad that the newest radio system had to go a third way instead of merging/meshing with one of the two well established ones in the area.
I'm unaware and uninformed about difficulties or shortcomings in NSRS or SNACC, so that's a possibility as well.

My understanding of Washoe County and their TRS is that NSRS is connected to WC's system and NHP actually runs on the WC TRS, so NHP and Reno PD interoperability should be a matter of simply changing 'channels', provided the radio is programmed accordingly.

 

[monitor142]

Yep, it was the stutter and it is an officer safety issue for sure.

If anyone had a beef at Metro with Motorola, it was probably some key management that reaches for a cell phone rather than a radio when they need something. I feel for the folks on the streets that need to depend on this "radio" system for their life/safety.

Going to the hotel, I observed a Metro patrol car with all the two way antennas removed except for the 700MHz antenna. The Vhf and 800 NMO's were just sitting exposed on the trunk. Something tells me that they aren't planning on a fallback system to VHF if D/S falls down. That's scary.

With NSRS talking P25, others in process or already on P25, there can be designated talkgroups that are connected to all the systems on the backend via an ISSI link. It's just a matter of coordinating radio ID's for roaming. It's not rocket science, it will run across different vendor platforms because it is a P25 standard. Using thing like VIDA are fugly blackbox solutions. They need to keep it at the IP level for it to play nicely (and that's if they stay away from vendor proprietary features that some opt for locking them into a single vendor; that defeats the purpose of the P25 standard). I like what the Phoenix RWC has done on their system. A prime example of true P25 where many vendors can play, even if Motorola is the dominant vendor.

One sort of connected topic is I see that Metro is already working with Harris on an LTE public safety data network. I think I will sit back with a cold beverage of my choice and watch Phase 2 of this nasty mess start. I may be from California but I still care about the quality of the comms for the guns and hoses no matter where they are....and I'm not saying we are immune from it in the Golden State either.

-M142

 

[Dick33]

Yes Very Very sad indeed !! Things over there just seem to never get any better. Public safety issue, officer safety issue and huge cost issue.

 

[bikinjohn]

The rumor I heard is that a higher up (Captain I guess) was the big push for Desert Sky, then soon after the department committed to it the higher up retired and now works for Harris.

Of course it's just a rumor....

 

[Dick33]

I know of someone that had approved it retired, then moved to Texas to work for Harris. If I recall the story correctly.

 

[bikinjohn]

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Well if we both heard it, then it must be true!

 

[bryan_herbert]

Because thats the info that was passed on to me, BY A LOCAL. But if y'all are saying different and they're indeed still simulcasting than great, that means I can put the VHF channels back in my HT for when Im in town visiting my family.

That's utter BS, Bryan. Why would you respond & pass misinformation, when you obviously don't know??? Some of the special units/TAC stuff is now Desert Sky (the LVMPD Open Sky system) only, but most of the dispatch stuff is still simulcast on VHF & occasionally there's some interesting tactical traffic that's knowingly or unknowingly on the old VHF channels.