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N_Jay
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Shame we jump to the assumption it is the "salesman" when it is just as likely to be one of a hundred other people.
Las Vegas OpenSky?
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As of this weekend its pretty much status quo, very few using the new radios. Chatting it up with a few Metro members at the range with the new radios, the guys were kind enough to spent few minutes with me showing off the radio then go in to a long $itch list of problems.
One major problem "login profile issues" Each time the Metro member logged in he got a totally different talkgroup list and home channel assignment.
Audio quality, it was just crappy, very strong digital wobble, not very clear and dropped off alot.
The members said and this is probably the major reason deployment is stalled IMHO the radios will log off randomly. Members said on several occasion on a code red the radio logged off for no reason.
One member said he had two suspects on the ground and could not communicate, you pretty much need two hands to login, he called dispatch on his cell using one hand and speed dial.
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mdickerson17
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The list just keeps on going........
If you listen to the audio archives on the scanner feed from 2/23 around 1015am, one of the gang units had a shots fired. Gangs is one of the groups with the new radios and he sounded horrible. The dispatcher couldn't figure out what was going on because it was constantly breaking in and out.
Jesse_Anthem
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Snacc
Let's Pray to the radio gods that opensky will fail miserably and metro will finally join SNACC
they are just wasting time and money with a system that does not work.
Let's Pray to the radio gods that opensky will fail miserably and metro will finally join SNACC
they are just wasting time and money with a system that does not work.
I'm thinking if the system is not fully operating successfully by, lets say July we will start to hear grumbling. I’m thinking the system is at least 6 months behind schedule.
Would Metro go SNACC anything is possible. Nevada is famous for things beside the "Welcome to Las Vegas" sign like scrapping radio system, NLVPD Edacs system.
Remember the NSRS a 150Mhz Motorola Type II system that never was in 2003
Maybe worth dropping a line to my Councilman: Steven Ross and see what he has to say!!!
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Jesse_Anthem
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we should actually write a letter altogether addressing this issue to several councilmen that are on metro's fiscal board and to the chief.. i mean this might take it too far, but aside for scanning and our hobby (work.. or whatever may be the case) i think we have a say in this matter - this is our civic duty to voice our opinion and make sure we are heard not only in this forum but out there - and perhaps make an impact.
i just cant digest the fact that a huge reputable organization in our town is going in a wrong direction, pretty much a dead-end direction. i cant digest the fact that they are starting a new network when there are 2 major (highly reliable) networks in town. this does not make any sense to me.
I talked to a Cadet using the OpenSky radio today and he said slowly but surely the bugs in the current phase are being worked out and eliminated. This has been the case with each phase so far. Unlike many here, I don't want OpenSky to fail. Looking at the system with it's history not withstanding, it offers a ton of benefits for the user, or should. If it succeeds and the implementation goes properly (small step, fix problems, small step fix problems) it will be an awesome system for Metro. Why they went with OpenSky is anyone's guess, but why wish a few million $$$s of your tax money away by wishing the system failure?
I agree and well said.
Improper actions
I do not live in the area but I am completely against keeping citizens from hearing their police. I agree incidents occur that require privacy and for that you can have an encrypted channel. But all regular communications must be available to be "legally" monitored in my opinion. I know of numerous incidents where the public being aware has helped solve crimes. If no one knows what is going on, no one is helping to look for the missing child, the hit and run car, the intoxicated driver, etc.
It seems to me that as others have said, currently two good systems exist in your area and should have been used. There is also the matter of interoperability/ mutual aid and of course money. If I lived in the area I would have some serious questions of people who supposedly are serving me and making good choices. To me this is another case of a waste of money just to have "the system". When will those in charge wake up and stop being taken by quick talking communication salespeople. It has happened twice where I live and was completely unnecessary. Good money that could have been spent to help was wasted for nonsense.
I do not live in the area but I am completely against keeping citizens from hearing their police. I agree incidents occur that require privacy and for that you can have an encrypted channel. But all regular communications must be available to be "legally" monitored in my opinion. I know of numerous incidents where the public being aware has helped solve crimes. If no one knows what is going on, no one is helping to look for the missing child, the hit and run car, the intoxicated driver, etc.
It seems to me that as others have said, currently two good systems exist in your area and should have been used. There is also the matter of interoperability/ mutual aid and of course money. If I lived in the area I would have some serious questions of people who supposedly are serving me and making good choices. To me this is another case of a waste of money just to have "the system". When will those in charge wake up and stop being taken by quick talking communication salespeople. It has happened twice where I live and was completely unnecessary. Good money that could have been spent to help was wasted for nonsense.
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coolrich55
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Question about LVMPD
I know someone here said that they expect opensky to be fully implemented by April. Does anyone if this is still correct? Are they still on schedule? I'm heading out there in May and hoping that they'll still be on vhf so i can listen to them for one last time.
I know someone here said that they expect opensky to be fully implemented by April. Does anyone if this is still correct? Are they still on schedule? I'm heading out there in May and hoping that they'll still be on vhf so i can listen to them for one last time.
mdickerson17
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I highly doubt they'll be fully implemented within the year! As of now it seems all the Cadets, K9 units and other special units are back on the VHF and they were the ones testing! I also heard the other day that all units need to utilize there vhf radios as desert sky would be down and since then all units have been on vhf ! Last week there was also a big problem with dtac and ne all units from ne had to use tac 1 and all units from dtac had to use tac 2 (the main channels were down for 4 days) im assuming its from the desert sky patch as those were the channels I heard most of the digital garble! I also heard an officer say he was switching to vhf for his safety because his radio wasn't working! So I think you'll be good when you come out! Just more reasons this radio system should be scrapped!
Thanks for your update. I did'nt know Cadets and K9 handed back the radios, not surprised.
Tac two is weak at my monitoring post, this explains why NE has been quite lately.
coolrich55
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Thanks for all the info. That's good news, at least for me anyways. I always enjoyed listening to them while I'm out there on vacation.
I was out in Vegas this past week. Saw mutliple Metro officers, all of whom had VHF handheld radios. Not even sure I saw any 800 mhz antennas on the patrol cars.
You didn't know because they didn't. They still have them and use them. They say it's scratchy when talking to someone on a VHF radio, but perfectly clear when talking to another OpenSky user. I see Cadets everyday and everyday (including today) they still have their OpenSky radios.
As for the recent issue with some major channels, it was not due to OpenSky. It was because the storms rolling through cut off access to one of Metro's mountain-top repeater sites which lost power and ran out of fuel on it's generator which caused the site to go down.
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At least they had some backup channels to work with. Those few with OS radios were left out holding the bag with NO SERVICE.
A few tactical members said they were still able to operate using mobile extenders.
It was'nt only the mountain top sites that had problems during the wind storm. so were the digital sites in NW and SC
Starting to see the odd OS used by different tactical units.
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bigdaddyrox4574
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Any updates?
Any new info on this issue? Have they switched yet? My mother-in-law lives in Vegas near Rancho (Where the Texas Station, etc. is) so we visit quite frequently. I finally decided to create a program for these trips and learned about this problem...to say I was disappointed would be an understatement!
Any new info on this issue? Have they switched yet? My mother-in-law lives in Vegas near Rancho (Where the Texas Station, etc. is) so we visit quite frequently. I finally decided to create a program for these trips and learned about this problem...to say I was disappointed would be an understatement!
Just got back from a 2 week stay at the Paris. Everything was still as usual- all VHF freqs active
Great monitoring
Now I have to hope they still continue to have problems for our next trip
Bob
Sounds like Harris is confident they will have the OpenSky system "signed-off" by the end of the year. In car installations pretty much all done, Most Metro members are using the OS system radios patched to the VHF system. VHF patching will continue in to the New Year.
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