If I am self programing a MotoTRBO Trunk and have discovered that the system changes their LCN, where and how do I use the LCN Finder?
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I have a upgraded SDS100 and 200
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I have a upgraded SDS100 and 200
LCN Finder on MotoTRBO Trunk
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settings....analyze...lcn finder
Are you creating the system in Sentinel? Yes, it can be done via the scanner's keypad, but saying that is a pain in your rear is an understatement.
Make sure that the Target Model is set for whichever scanner you want to use. That setting is under the drop-down Tools menu in Sentinel.
Edit either an existing Favorites list, or create a new one.
You will need to create the system, then add a Department as well as a site.
With Departments tab selected, click on the green plus sign to add a department
Then, click on the Sites tab to add a site.
For the site, be sure to include all the frequencies that should be in use. Unless you know the Color Code being used, leave that field as Search.
Select the Options tab on the system & set it to ID Search, unless you already know the talkgroups,
Save your changes before exiting the Editor.
Next, use Sentinel to write that list to your scanner. Be sure that, in your Profile, that list is selected to be downloaded as well as be monitored.
With your list now on the scanner, as Ikas has noted, scroll down to the Analyze sub-menu, and select the LCN Finder.
When you select the LCN Finder in the menu, you will be asked for the name of the system. You can use the scroll knob to enter at least a couple letters of the new systems name. Or, if you press the Enter key, you will see a list of all programmed systems that use an LCN.
Once you've selected the system, the menu will also ask you to select the site. All the sites on that system (if there is more than one) will show. Scroll to highlight the one you want, and press Enter.
Depending on how much the system is used, it may take some time to find all of the LCNs. If you you are trying to do this for a school district, it's not likely to be active on nights & weekends. Some business systems are often used mostly during business hours, say 8am to 6pm. The system needs to have a medium level of activity. Very little traffic, then it's likely that not all of the LCNs will show up quickly. Similarly, if it is a really busy system, that also can hinder how long it takes to find the LCNs.
Once you've let it run, and it has found LCNs for each of the frequencies, then press the System soft key to go back to scanning. You will see a prompt asking whether or not to save the LCNs that were found. Be sure to save.
While you can review which LCNs were found directly on the scanner, that's a long slow process, with several steps for each frequency. It's better to put the scanner in Mass Storage Mode, and download it from the scanner into your software.
Just note that, if perhaps you did not find all the LCNs, and want to run that again, when you do that, the scanner will reset all of the LCNs back to zero & start over. It does not use the ones found, so it will need to find them again.
Can this be done without the software?
Are you referring to record the found LCN's? Or something else?
Yes.… If I go into analyze, and then select find LCN, what do I do to actually receive the data?
To better state my question, while the LCN finder is running, does it stop once it is has found all the LCN’s?
No, it will not.
Look at this example:
This is a known, active, system in my area (DFW metro). I started the LCN finder to do a screen shot.
Right now, it shows found 0 out of 12. If I let it run, and when the system is busier, as it finds one, it will show "1/12, 2/12.---". The 12 is the number of frequencies licensed for that location, so it could be that not all 12 are in use. Even if it did find all 12, the screen would show that it found 12/12, but the LCN finder would keep running until I exit it & save the results.
For the LCN Finder to work, there has to be a medium amount of traffic (talkgroups in use). If it is rarely used, the system might not find LCNs for all programmed frequencies. If, on the other hand, the system is extremely busy, then you might not get an accurate LCN Finder session, because of too many users are on at the same time.
This is my listen to rotates its LCN, making it difficult to monitor.
here is another question: I know most of the talk groups, and I was wondering when a unit ID comes up, and I enter it in, will the scanner actually find it?
here is another question: I know most of the talk groups, and I was wondering when a unit ID comes up, and I enter it in, will the scanner actually find it?
I am sorry for my ignorance, but where is the system soft key button?
You can't actually program the scanner to only monitor specific UIDs. However, if you do identify one or more UIDs, you can enter those in that system, and then you can set the scanner to give you an alert tone, and/or, specify an Alert LED setting, like "flashing red" for, say, a battalion chief's car on a fire department.
You can set the display on your scanner so that that UID name displays.
Yes, I am finding that out and thank you for your help. I really do appreciate it.
The "System" soft key is the one on the left side, below the display screen. The middle one is for Departments & Sites, and the right side is for Channels.
It's referred to as a "soft" key because it may be used for more than just setting a hold on a system. Like, when you are running the LCN finder, that "soft key" has a text 'to scan' directly above it on the display.
If you were manually entering a text tag for a channel or something else, the system (left side) key moves the cursor on the screen to the left. The channel soft key would be used to move the cursor to the right.
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