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[ka3jjz]

I tried sending some mail to your webmaster ID, and it bounced with a permanent fatal error.

I had a question, more a curiosity than anything else - in the airports sections, freqs between 128.825 and 132 mhz are listed as 'airport airlines' or similar. Why? These freqs are usually administered by Aeronautical Radio Inc (ARINC) - shouldn't they be listed as such?

73s and thanx...Mike

 

[FPO703]

I tried sending some mail to your webmaster ID, and it bounced with a permanent fatal error.

I had a question, more a curiosity than anything else - in the airports sections, freqs between 128.825 and 132 mhz are listed as 'airport airlines' or similar. Why? These freqs are usually administered by Aeronautical Radio Inc (ARINC) - shouldn't they be listed as such?

73s and thanx...Mike

Probably because the individual airlines utilize them. ARINC may 'own' or 'administer' them. But, they do not utilize them.

If a person is looking for comms for United Airlines, and all you have listed is 'ARINC', they're gonna be puzzled because they know that United Airlines uses a specific frequency for comms.

 

[blantonl]

I am receiving mail at my webmaster account... just received a few messages this morning.

 

[ericcarlson]

ARINC basically acts as a spectrum manager for the "company" frequencies in the aeronautical band. ARINC itself does not actually use any of them, except the ones used for ACARS data and those used for the ARINC En Route Service network.

Airlines use them primarily for contacting their local operations staff at a given airport. Some major airlines also have separate dispatch frequencies which are patched back to the airline headquarters (these are also used to contact maintenance when away from a hub). Some airlines have the ability to setup a patch to their dispatcher on their "ops" frequency. At a hub, there is a usually a local maintenance frequency for the pilots to contact hub maintenance directly.

Smaller airlines (especially charters) will use the ARINC En Route Service to contact an ARINC dispatcher who will patch them to their own dispatcher or relay a message to their dispatcher for them.

The company frequencies are also used for ramp control (although ATC ground frequencies are used in some cases). Usually, the dominant airline at an airport is responsible for ramp control. Any aircraft moving in the controlled area will have to contact ramp control.

-Eric

 

[ka3jjz]

ARINC basically acts as a spectrum manager for the "company" frequencies in the aeronautical band. ARINC itself does not actually use any of them, except the ones used for ACARS data and those used for the ARINC En Route Service network.

Airlines use them primarily for contacting their local operations staff at a given airport. Some major airlines also have separate dispatch frequencies which are patched back to the airline headquarters (these are also used to contact maintenance when away from a hub). Some airlines have the ability to setup a patch to their dispatcher on their "ops" frequency. At a hub, there is a usually a local maintenance frequency for the pilots to contact hub maintenance directly.

Smaller airlines (especially charters) will use the ARINC En Route Service to contact an ARINC dispatcher who will patch them to their own dispatcher or relay a message to their dispatcher for them.

The company frequencies are also used for ramp control (although ATC ground frequencies are used in some cases). Usually, the dominant airline at an airport is responsible for ramp control. Any aircraft moving in the controlled area will have to contact ramp control.

-Eric

Yeah, Eric, I've noted virtually all of these cases while redoing the ARINC freq usage for the BWI area. The point that I was trying to make - rather poorly as it turns out - is that I thought the title for the listings for the users in this band is a little misleading. 73s Mike