linking motorola mototrbo repeater

[LowderK]

ok we have 2 slr5700 vhf repeaters…. we were told by the local motorola shop you can no longer link them without external equipment… is this true..? i thought all you needed was a static IP and good connection to link is this not true anymore… or is the local shops trying to spend our $$$$ just a simple IPSC 2 repeater project

 

[K5MPH]

IP site connect in digital mode only....

 

[LowderK]

i understand digital but local dealer is saying other then internet and two repeaters you need switch’s and other equipment…. that’s not true correct…. all you need is the repeaters and a good internet connection

 

[KC4YIN]

Sounds like someone is trying to get you to spend money. We are running XPR 8400 and MTR 3000 repeaters just fine through internet in digital mode. We have also converted some old analog TAIT equipment into digital mode using MMDVM hardware with a total of 10 repeaters in service for the last 3 years. This is in the amateur service and not business related. All work well.

 

[dcr_inc]

Anybody have an XPR8300 on TGIF network? What settings did you use?

 

[wa8pyr]

i understand digital but local dealer is saying other then internet and two repeaters you need switch’s and other equipment…. that’s not true correct…. all you need is the repeaters and a good internet connection

What they probably mean is that you need internet routers and switches. If you already have a functioning internet connection with all that stuff at your site, all you need to do is plug one end of a CAT5 or CAT6 cable into the switch and the other end into your repeater. I'm running an XPR8400 at my site and that's all it takes.

And don't let the local dealer bamboozle you into buying "Motorola-approved" equipment, either. Assuming you already have a cable or other modem at your site, all you need is a router and a switch; quality versions of both can be had brand new for under $200. Most decent home or small business routers these days even include a basic four- or five-port switch, so unless you need more connections than that, you can get by with the router alone. I use a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X with four-port switch which cost me about $60 and has been running flawlessly since I bought it two years ago; since I have more stuff to connect than just four I also run a rack-mounted 16-port TP-Link switch. Total price for both was around $150 at the time.

 

[Project25_MASTR]

What you need to link two TRBO repeater together via IPSC is IP network connectivity. This could be done in a LAN, over a larger internal network or via a PtP link (T1, dark fiber, microwave radio, laser, narrowband IP, G.Fast, VDSL, etc), or via the internet. Now it is extremely poor practice to place the entire repeater in a DMZ so it just is sitting on the open internet with a public IP address. What your shop is likely attempting to sell you is a firewall (which also acts as a router) that will allow the repeaters to be NATed (provides some security) with the proper ports needed by IPSC forwarded to the LANs which the two repeaters sit behind. If they are a really experienced shop, they are likely attempting to sell you routers with VPN capabilities so there is an encrypted tunnel between the two sites (or selling a VPNaaS).

They may also be doing this as most two way radio communications equipment is IPv4 only and does not support IPv6 thus they are creating a layer 2 tunnel over IPv6 infrastructure which will allow IPv4 to work.

Source: This is kind of my thing...and yes people do pay for my expertise in the matter.

 

[K5MPH]

We are using a moto slr-5700 for DMR local repeater in our area and is connected to BM and works very well ........

 

[R8000]

What your shop is likely attempting to sell you is a firewall (which also acts as a router) that will allow the repeaters to be NATed (provides some security) with the proper ports needed by IPSC forwarded to the LANs which the two repeaters sit behind. If they are a really experienced shop, they are likely attempting to sell you routers with VPN capabilities so there is an encrypted tunnel between the two sites (or selling a VPNaaS).

Thank You for actually giving the correct answer.

 

[merlin]

If the repeater site separation is under 25 miles, a couple cheap Ubiquity dish links will work.
Cheaper yet if under 5 miles.