List of SW broadcasters.

[GB46]

I've attached a list of SW broadcasters I found on Wikipedia. It appears to be accurate as of 2017. It's not a schedule, just a list of stations using HF, including some clandestines. The file is in PDF format.

Now, if we could have some propagation ...

 

[SDRPlayer]

Nice find, thanks!

 

[K4EET]

I've attached a list of SW broadcasters I found on Wikipedia. It appears to be accurate as of 2017. It's not a schedule, just a list of stations using HF, including some clandestines. The file is in PDF format.

Now, if we could have some propagation ...

GB46,

Fantastic find you have there! Thirty-three pages of weblinks for many of the stations that are still active. Thanks for sharing!

Cheers! Dave

 

[GB46]

I can't recall how I ran across that list, probably when searching for something else on Google, which always leads to new discoveries. I saved the Wikipedia page as a PDF document, using the Print dialogue in Chrome, but here's a link to the original:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_shortwave_radio_broadcasters&oldid=856136473

It was updated in August of this year, but is still being actively edited, judging by Wikipedia's notes at the top, which weren't on the page when I first discovered it.

 

[K4EET]

The following page was last edited on 3 November 2018:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shortwave_radio_broadcasters

Why are there so many versions of this listing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_shortwave_radio_broadcasters&oldid=856136473

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...o_broadcasters&direction=next&oldid=856136473

I guess the above two are just earlier versions?

Cheers! Dave

 

[w2xq]

Who knows who edits what on Wikipedia. If one were to know such things, a better solution would be the following.

First, order a copy of the annual industry standard World Rsdio TV Handbook. The 2019 edition may be ordered directly from WRTH Online or Universal Radio or Ham Radio Outlet or Barnes & Noble and numerous other outlets.

Second, stay up to date with the seasonal schedules via https://groups.io/g/swskeds using Google Sheets, Libreoffice, Excel et al.

Third, get an IRC program like Icechat9 (Windows) or YAAIC (Android)--sorry, don't know Apples--and join the channels #swl on Starchat and #swling on Digital Addiction.

Finis.

For extra credit, come to the next NASWA Winter SWL Fest scheduled for Feb 28-Mar 2, 2019.

Giddyup.

 

[GB46]

The following page was last edited on 3 November 2018:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shortwave_radio_broadcasters

Why are there so many versions of this listing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_shortwave_radio_broadcasters&oldid=856136473

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...o_broadcasters&direction=next&oldid=856136473

I guess the above two are just earlier versions?

Confusing, isn't it? Even the oldest version seems relatively up to date. There's an explanation in the footer of the page:

Besides normal editing, the reason for revision may have been that this version contains factual inaccuracies, vandalism, or material not compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License.

I guess by "normal editing" they mean typos, etc. Still, this article's revisions seem more frequent than is usual for Wikipedia. Of course, it's so much better than relying on printed matter, like the WRTH, which can't show changes that occur in the middle of a broadcast season after the book has gone to press. I used to buy that book annually, but can no longer justify the expense, considering how few of the broadcasters I can actually hear, not to mention all of the wonderful info that's available here and on other websites.

What I used to like most about the WRTH was their inclusion of a couple of bars of music notation for each of the interval signals used by the stations. That helped me immensely, because I read music. Many of my favorite stations are off the air now, and they were the ones with the most interesting interval signals.

 

[w2xq]

Of course, it's so much better than relying on printed matter, like the WRTH, which can't show changes that occur in the middle of a broadcast season after the book has gone to press.

One spends big money on equipment, but a few dollars for the WRTH? The WRTH website has schedule updates. And there is so much more information than just schedules. Dan Ferguson addresses the schedule "problem" with his care and feeding of https://groups.io/g/swskeds (if one were to know such things).

I used to pick up my WRTH copy from Gilfer, Park Ridge, in the 1950s, and wrote for the annual commencing in 1976 (w2xq.com Bibliography). Many changes over the years...

 

[GB46]

One spends big money on equipment, but a few dollars for the WRTH? The WRTH website has schedule updates. And there is so much more information than just schedules. Dan Ferguson addresses the schedule "problem" with his care and feeding of https://groups.io/g/swskeds (if one were to know such things).

I used to pick up my WRTH copy from Gilfer, Park Ridge, in the 1950s, and wrote for the annual commencing in 1976 (w2xq.com Bibliography). Many changes over the years...

No offence meant to the WRTH. Sure, I could easily afford it, especially because I don't spend half the money on equipment that most people here do. It's a good publication, which I used to pick up at a local bookstore. In fact, in 1998 I ordered my R75 based on a review I had read in WRTH.

So why don't I order it now? Not because I'm cheap, but simply because, as I mentioned earlier, most of the broadcasters simply don't come in here, either because of the time of day, my location, or my antenna limitations. Location is a major part of it, as most of the stations you folks down east hear are just not available at my location, which is pretty much blocked by mountains. As for time, propagation is best for me during our early morning hours -- to the west of me, that is. The Asian stations come banging in at that time. The afternoon is almost a write-off, except for the ham nets (Noontime Net, Aurora Net, Maritime Net, etc.), FT8 and the odd digital signal from one of the utilities. In the early evening I might even hear a barely readable European broadcaster or two, but later on all I can pick up are some ham QSOs. Even they disappear by 8:00 PM or so.

I fire up EIBIview from time to time, and download the updated database when it's posted. If I do hear one of the broadcasters, EIBI's schedules always turn out to be accurate.

Thanks for those links, although I've been trying to spend less time online these days, aside from this forum. Most of the time I put my computer into sleep mode when I'm listening, unless of course I'm decoding a digital signal.

73

Gerry

 

[Boombox]

I have found Short-Wave.info adequate for my listening and ID purposes.

EIBI doesn't always load onto a txt doc like it used to. The rest of them I have no use for -- being this far north, and close to the auroral zone, SW isn't always hopping, and I refuse to join a group just to have yet another database that is only partially useful at this latitude.

 

[K4EET]

I have found Short-Wave.info adequate for my listening and ID purposes.<snip>

Thanks for the website! I was not aware of that one and it looks promising.

Cheers! Dave

 

[GB46]

EIBI doesn't always load onto a txt doc like it used to.

I wonder why that is. Didn't you also say that the AM broadcaster list wouldn't load? Both of those text files load into Notepad here with no problem, and that's about the simplest text editor available. Of course, very large text files can take a bit longer time to load than usual.

With EIBI's txt files I either have to turn off word wrap, choose a smaller font, or remove some extra spaces between the columns to make the lines fit the width of the screen. The latter option is only possible with a text editor that's more advanced than Notepad.

 

[w2xq]

I believe you'll find https://groups.io/g/swskeds is more comprehensive than just EIBI. and it is additionally typically updated *during* the season. But that's me. Giddyup.

 

[GB46]

I believe you'll find https://groups.io/g/swskeds is more comprehensive than just EIBI. and it is additionally typically updated *during* the season. But that's me. Giddyup.

FYI, EIBI just updated its database yesterday, which is the third time this season, I believe. During the summer season there were frequent updates, too.

The only problem I have with EIBI is a line in the CSV file which the EIBIview app can't swallow. It brings up an error message, and is in every update, so I have to always remove that line from the file before I use it. The software hasn't been updated for a long time, so maybe that's where the fault lies.

Gerry

 

[Boombox]

I wonder why that is. Didn't you also say that the AM broadcaster list wouldn't load? Both of those text files load into Notepad here with no problem, and that's about the simplest text editor available. Of course, very large text files can take a bit longer time to load than usual.

With EIBI's txt files I either have to turn off word wrap, choose a smaller font, or remove some extra spaces between the columns to make the lines fit the width of the screen. The latter option is only possible with a text editor that's more advanced than Notepad.

Last time I tried it with word wrap and no word wrap, using two different browsers, and the result was useless.

Being that prop is horrible I decided to bag it -- Short-wave.info is adequate for my uses and there's no downloading or joining of egroups necessary.

I know there was a similar Aoki list on the net somewhere. That might be helpful to some people, if it still exists.

 

[Boombox]

Thanks for the website! I was not aware of that one and it looks promising.

Cheers! Dave

Glad to be of some help. Short-wave.info is a great site.

 

[majoco]

I believe you'll find https://groups.io/g/swskeds is more comprehensive than just EIBI.

Dan updates this list on almost daily basis - but you still have to hope that his sources do the same!

 

[w2xq]

No worries about Dan F getting it right.

 

[Boombox]

Tried EiBi again. Now I know what the problem is. It isn't that the schedule won't load. It's that their website simply doesn't come up. And then you Google it, and get a page that looks suspiciously like a page that tries to trick you into loading unwanted streaming software with all the big green "DOWNLOAD HERE" buttons.

 

[w2xq]

And I rest my case. Giddyup.