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my mom used to listen all the time years ago and wants to get back into listening. I have tried to figure out what she would need but i am honestly not sure. so i have a few questions:
1. is it still possible to listen to the 3 main services. fire, police, ems?
2. if so what kind of scanner will she need?

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1. is it still possible to listen to the 3 main services. fire, police, ems?
Having a look at the database, Torrington Police are P25 conventional but they appear to be simulcast across 4 sites so depending on where your mom is located relative to these 4 sites then simulcast distortion may be an issue.
FrequencyInputLicenseTypeToneAlpha TagDescriptionModeTag
152.3225157.5825WQTH284RM033 NACTorring PDPoliceP25Law Dispatch

Fire & EMS are on CLMRN. There are a number of sites listed for Litchfield County and most are simulcast as well.

2. if so what kind of scanner will she need?
I'd recommend a Uniden SDS100 (handheld) or SDS200 (base) to overcome the likely effects of simulcast distortion. Welcome to the RR forums!
 

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Having a look at the database,
Here we go again with the usual out of area folks chiming in on a local question, on a forum that has a very active local presence. :rolleyes:

Anyways, so here's the actual deal.

Torrington PD is still conventional P25. Torrington Fire is on CLMRN, the statewide P25 trunk. I don't know if the VHF simulcast is still active or not. DPW is VHF analog. With Winsted moving to CLMRN and their Fire being there, expect the PD to move there in the not too distant future. Torrington PD has been chirping about encryption for the longest time too, so likely they'll join Winsted and be completely encrypted.

A P25 Phase II scanner would be best. Simple for her would likely be a 996P2, but be warned, with CLMRN being a phase II system, you may experience simulcast distortion. However Torrington is well covered by one site, so I doubt you'd have much of a problem there.
 

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Here we go again with the usual out of area folks chiming in on a local question, on a forum that has a very active local presence. :rolleyes:

Anyways, so here's the actual deal.

Torrington PD is still conventional P25. Torrington Fire is on CLMRN, the statewide P25 trunk. I don't know if the VHF simulcast is still active or not. DPW is VHF analog. With Winsted moving to CLMRN and their Fire being there, expect the PD to move there in the not too distant future. Torrington PD has been chirping about encryption for the longest time too, so likely they'll join Winsted and be completely encrypted.

A P25 Phase II scanner would be best. Simple for her would likely be a 996P2, but be warned, with CLMRN being a phase II system, you may experience simulcast distortion. However Torrington is well covered by one site, so I doubt you'd have much of a problem there.
thank you. so at some point pd will most likely not be able to listen too, but fire and ems should be?
 

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Having a look at the database, Torrington Police are P25 conventional but they appear to be simulcast across 4 sites so depending on where your mom is located relative to these 4 sites then simulcast distortion may be an issue.
FrequencyInputLicenseTypeToneAlpha TagDescriptionModeTag
152.3225157.5825WQTH284RM033 NACTorring PDPoliceP25Law Dispatch

Fire & EMS are on CLMRN. There are a number of sites listed for Litchfield County and most are simulcast as well.


I'd recommend a Uniden SDS100 (handheld) or SDS200 (base) to overcome the likely effects of simulcast distortion. Welcome to the RR forums!
Local here: EMS is NOT on the CLMRN, EMS is on the Homeland Defense Network and is on a Hytera T3 Standard DMR system dispatched by Trinity which is listed in the RRDB. You can get away with a BCD536HP or similar model which will work just fine wherever your (OP's) mother lives in Torrington. Torrington Police will be moving over to the CLMRN hopefully sometime this year but no ETA so W1KNE is absolutely correct about getting a P25 P2 scanner. The VHF tower for the FD is still active, but reception is not great at times. @op do not get anything other than a P25 P2 scanner or SDR, you WILL NEED it.

TLDR: P25 P2 scanner required, you can absolutely still listen to all three services
 

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Here we go again with the usual out of area folks chiming in on a local question, on a forum that has a very active local presence. :rolleyes:

Anyways, so here's the actual deal.

Torrington PD is still conventional P25. Torrington Fire is on CLMRN, the statewide P25 trunk. I don't know if the VHF simulcast is still active or not. DPW is VHF analog. With Winsted moving to CLMRN and their Fire being there, expect the PD to move there in the not too distant future. Torrington PD has been chirping about encryption for the longest time too, so likely they'll join Winsted and be completely encrypted.

A P25 Phase II scanner would be best. Simple for her would likely be a 996P2, but be warned, with CLMRN being a phase II system, you may experience simulcast distortion. However Torrington is well covered by one site, so I doubt you'd have much of a problem there.
There has been 0 indication TPD is going encrypted. Check your sources. Matter of fact, when the temporary CLMRN patch was active police ops were completely in the clear. As far as I am aware there is NO plan to encrypt. Their talkgroups are already in the database except for two which will be used for tactical encrypted and another for detectives which I have not submitted because it hasn't been received yet, even during their testing and temporary CLMRN patch that was briefly active. Again, local here.
 

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You aren't local to the OP so who are you to talk? :poop:
I was in Litchfield County less than a month ago, when were you there last time?
There has been 0 indication TPD is going encrypted. Check your sources. Matter of fact, when the temporary CLMRN patch was active police ops were completely in the clear. As far as I am aware there is NO plan to encrypt. Their talkgroups are already in the database except for two which will be used for tactical encrypted and another for detectives which I have not submitted because it hasn't been received yet, even during their testing and temporary CLMRN patch that was briefly active. Again, local here.
You don't remember when they first went P25, there was a statement from (I believe now) the previous Police Chief stating they were hoping for encryption on the new system. I thought they had used it for a very short time as well. Again this was many years ago, back when they were on that 151 frequency. We'll have to see, as things have changed a bunch since then, and perhaps I am wrong about the encryption thing. And, yes I know you're a local, which is why I will defer to you on the encryption thing.
 

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I was in Litchfield County less than a month ago, when were you there last time?

You don't remember when they first went P25, there was a statement from (I believe now) the previous Police Chief stating they were hoping for encryption on the new system. I thought they had used it for a very short time as well. Again this was many years ago, back when they were on that 151 frequency. We'll have to see, as things have changed a bunch since then, and perhaps I am wrong about the encryption thing. And, yes I know you're a local, which is why I will defer to you on the encryption thing.
I have the new CLMRN talkgroups in the scanner since January or so. I have them on priority scan, just been waiting to hear them used. There is some sort of holdup that is preventing TPD from making the switch but I'm not sure what exactly that is. I could be wrong, and they could bamboozle us and switch over to the big E but I don't know. I haven't heard anything about it recently and I figured if they were to go encrypted fulltime on all TG's they would have been encrypted even during that brief CLMRN patch that lasted from January to February. The department received VP8000's and are currently using them, obviously as we all know just on conventional. It does appear that there are still some of the old Kenwood portables still in use, as I'm getting a mix of old RID's and new (143 prefix RID's) through SDRTrunk. Anyways, the other two talkgroups we can expect to see would be 24312 (SHOULD be Tactical, full time encryption AFAIK) and 24313 (Detectives, should be in the clear) but I will definitely submit those as soon as I hear and confirm them to be in use. Good point about the previous police chief talking about encryption. Hopefully those talks stay in the past, lol. An additional note to the OP regarding Torrington Fire - You may not always hear initial dispatches depending on if a radio is currently affiliated. If you end up getting a P25 scanner and hear missed dispatches for the FD, that is most likely due to the affiliation thing. This happens from time to time but overall I would say most dispatches can be captured.
EDIT: @W1KNE i apologize for coming across a bit harshly. That is my fault, I did not have coffee yet at the time i wrote my previous comment to you about encryption lol.
 
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You aren't local to the OP so who are you to talk? :poop:
The last time I checked, New England encompasses CT and the "Philly Burbs" or "southeast PA" are nowhere near CT.

Also, he is the DB admin of that state, so he prob knows more. A brief look at the DB doesn't always reveal the full operations and everything. Sometimes, you must do more digging to find the full story. Do some research is all I'm saying before having a pissing match with another member about locations, or let the locals chime in :rolleyes:
 
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@W1KNE is all of the above plus the owner of ScanNewEngland, and oh yeah he works in the industry. That's who he is to talk. Some members can't help but chime in on every thread within a 1,000 mile radius to offer generic advice, copying/pasting right out of the RRDB...basically just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Yeah, it's getting old.
 

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I was in Litchfield County less than a month ago, when were you there last time?

You don't remember when they first went P25, there was a statement from (I believe now) the previous Police Chief stating they were hoping for encryption on the new system. I thought they had used it for a very short time as well. Again this was many years ago, back when they were on that 151 frequency. We'll have to see, as things have changed a bunch since then, and perhaps I am wrong about the encryption thing. And, yes I know you're a local, which is why I will defer to you on the encryption thing.
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143 PD dispatch will remain in the clear, PD2 will be secure.
Winchester operating full time on CLMRN with PD 1&2 secure, PD 3 clear
Torrington FD operating a mixture of VHF conventional and CLMRN
Trinity operating on the Marcus system, communicating with LCD over med tac 12

Any other questions?
 

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143 PD dispatch will remain in the clear, PD2 will be secure.
Winchester operating full time on CLMRN with PD 1&2 secure, PD 3 clear
Torrington FD operating a mixture of VHF conventional and CLMRN
Trinity operating on the Marcus system, communicating with LCD over med tac 12

Any other questions?
I didn't know about the Med-Tac 12 usage. Did they begin using it when Trinity went to the Marcus system?
 

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And you didn't even stop to say Hi?
I was only in Canaan. Didn't drive down 44 this time. Next time! Where my folks live in Berkshire County, I can hear a whole lot of Litchfield County there, including Winstead and Torrington. I just don't really listen to fire much these days, too many medical calls.
 

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They've been using it for several years so LCD can keep track of them responding to calls in the city.
Good to know, I'll add it for when I'm in the area. PL 192.8? Is this listed in the database specifically (not generally in the list of common med channels). My bad if it is, never noticed.
 

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Good to know, I'll add it for when I'm in the area. PL 192.8? Is this listed in the database specifically (not generally in the list of common med channels). My bad if it is, never noticed.
156.7
Sometimes get a little bleed over from granby but not often
 
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