Longmont on DTRS

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nathancarlson

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Thanks, Jerry!! I have logged a lot of affiliations with the Radio IDs I have been watching for. Also, Longmont United Hospital TG came up affiliated on Pro96com last night, and I have never seen this TG used before, so I am thinking they are getting closer to the transition and everybody is getting on the same page! I know that there is a special ops channel Longmont PD was using the other day and i don't know if it is DTRS or conventional, but the Boulder County SO unit said he did not have the "special ops" channel. Glad to hear that the BSO units will sitll be able to communicate with Longmont Officers! There is a lot of really good mutual aid that I did not want to see go away due to radio compatability.
 

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Another TG?

Early this morning, 08:00 - 08:30 or so (I'd disconnected the laptop I've been using recently to do `logging' so that my daughter could use it for a project she's been working on. {WAN GRIN!}), I caught what sounded like Longmont FD either doing some sort of test, training exercise, or working a fire on 9524.

The thing that *I* found `interesting', and makes me wonder if it was some sort of test, training exercise, or an actual `working' fire, was that the audio was, by far, the cleanest I've heard. Even though it sounded like they were doing some sort of search within a building, and were talking about the smoke I heard none of the `usual?' SCUBA sounds! Has there been some new `tech-no-golly' recently `let loose' that can do this?
 

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Heard on TG 9524

Well... Wouldn't ya know it... {WAN GRIN!} (A little `history'... SWMBO has a twice a month `get together' over in Longmont where a bunch of ladies gather at a local sewing shop and have what they call a `Sewing Sweatshop' where they bring in projects they've been trying to get done but just haven't quite managed to do so.) Well... She just got back home about 2hrs ago and just finally got `a round tuit' telling me about one of the things that had been discussed at this one. Seems that one of the ladies sons, or some other `relative', has a connection of some sort with the LFD and had mentioned that there had been some sort of `test' of some new radios yesterday fairly close to the time I caught the conversation(s) on TG 9524! Of course, SWMBO then mentioned that I'd caught part of it and had been surprised at how clear their signal/audio had been. Which, after the lady said that she'd pass that info along, kind of degenerated into the `usual' discussion about `how does one do that?', `isn't that illegal?', `isn't the equipment awfully expensive?', ETC.. SWMBO, to her lovely credit, did as best as she could to try and explain scanning to the ladies *and*, possibly unfortunately, said that she would *try* and `pry' one of my HHs away from me and bring it in to one of the future `Sweatshops' to let them actually listen a bit. {YIKES!}

'Course, and this is probably something that's going to cause the Moderator to hit me and I promise that I'll try and keep it as short, `fat chance?' as I can, this then brings up the question of whether I should just send one HH and try and have it programmed for both the Boulder County / Longmont `conventional' and also Weld County and CSP DTRS *or* send two HHs with one strictly `conventional' and the other strictly DTRS? (Either way I am *not* going to let my PSR-500 go! And... I don't think that it would also be all that great sending one of my base/mobiles as I *do* know that they seem to always have problems finding enough outlets and extension cords just for all the sewing machines that show up and I don't think that they'd be all that `happy' at having to give up an outlet just for `some radio'. [One SWMBO can be easily `coped with' but, a *whole store full* of them...!!! {RDAC!}]) In the first scenario I'd be sending a PRO-96 and in the second it would most likely be augmented by a PRO-97. Either way I am wondering if I should just basically leave the PRO-96 programmed `as usual' or `custom program' it' and, and here is the other question, possibly just make up a set of `notes' SWMBO can refer to to explain the `why' it isn't going to receive Longmont even *if* they managed to finally get the system completely up and running. Or... Just say `the heck with it' and tell SWMBO tell them that I sent the `second string' scanner because I won't let the `first string' scanner out of my `evil clutches' unless she kills me. The PRO-97 would most likely stay pretty much programmed `as usual' since most of them have pretty much been reprogrammed such that the majority of what agencies I use them to listen to on `conventional' systems have been reduced enough that I can lock/unlock them pretty much individually already and only a couple are programmed for `special?' use and I'd make certain I didn't send along either of those.

What *might* make the preceeding a tad bit more `on topic' is that, from what SWMBO said, we just *might* end up with both some new `scannists' and, even though it *is* a `long shot', possibly another `someone on the inside' to help us get the Longmont system worked out? From what SWMBO has mention in the past there are *some* ladies who have mentioned that they would like to have a way, beyond what they find in the `SlimesCall', `hear' as `gossip', or *maybe* catch on broadcast news, to know just what is happening around them. Maybe this *might* be `a ticket' / `foot in the door' for them and possibly us here on RR? I *do* know that around here SWMBO, and even sometimes both children, catch a lot of things that I'll miss for one reason or another. SWMBO can tell by just the `tones' on Fire S/N which department is getting paged out and even at some times where they are going from out in our kitchen quicker than I. ('Course *some* of that could be because of my times spent around too many loud noises and advancing years? {GRIMACE!}) Oh, yeah... *Except* for only 2 - 3 of the `Sweatshop' group the majority of these ladies live either right in Longmont or right on the outer fringes and we are `talking' about close to 2 - 2½ dozen ladies! *If* we could get a quarter to a third of them listening...??? It would be a `nice bump' in `ears' for us?

Oh, well... Just an `Olde Fart's' 2¢ worth. {WAN GRIN!}

And... *NO* I am *not* going to go to one of those `Sweatshops' and leave our `2 sweet darlings', *NOT*, `in charge' of everything! It's hard enough to get them to do `their chores' when there is someone around to `crack a whip' over them. I shudder to think about what things would be like *if* we gave them an `opening' like that! (Actually they *do* `do things' fairly well on their own. But, I *do* have to CMA *if* I want to keep my `Old Crumudgen License' intact. {SNICKER!} [Sort of a `good parent/cop' VS `bad parent/cop' `act'. {CHORTLE!}])
 

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um ......what?

Well... It started out acknowledging that my `guess' / `wondering', from the little fragment I managed to hear, about it possibly being one of several things was somewhat correct in that it was some kind of `test' / `exercise'.

It then went on to acknowedge that not only there *might* be a `recruitment' possibility `lurking' at someplace one might not consider as it being possible. I also wondered if anyone might have some other suggestions as to just what type of equipment and how they'd put said equipment together would be possibly the easiest `method' to do said `recruitment'. (Along with a bit of an explanation of just why all these nice ladies happened to be gathered together, too.) I guess that it was just one way of saying that there are other places where we might be able to find others who might enjoy this hobby, or be `sources', that might not be all that obvious.

Third, for some of those who wonder / worry about *their* SWMBOs I made the mention of just how SWMBO, and my `little monsters... err... angels', still never cease to amaze me as to what and how much they catch off my radios despite how much they might try to appear not to. (I my case it *may* be because of... A: I try and keep things such that the radios are *not* the `main' thing one hears around the place despite how much it might seem when someone `new' shows up. and... B: The fact that even though we are *surrounded* by Firestone now days we are still actually pretty much `out in the country' and the radios are one of our major sources about what is going on around us.)

The very last comment about my `Old Crumudgen License' is somewhat of a `poke' at myself because I seem to always seem to basically get the impression that is how some people `look' at me. At least, even with that, I can still find, no matter how `dark' it might seem, some humor to that given what could have been if things had gone differently some 44 years ago. (I'll admit that I've packed a whole bunch of `living' into those 44 years because I really have never known just how many years I'd have. As one of the lines in a pretty well known song goes, "What a strange trip it's been." and I try to keep on having many more years to enjoy.)
 

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Well... It started out acknowledging that my `guess' / `wondering', from the little fragment I managed to hear, about it possibly being one of several things was somewhat correct in that it was some kind of `test' / `exercise'.

It then went on to acknowedge that not only there *might* be a `recruitment' possibility `lurking' at someplace one might not consider as it being possible. I also wondered if anyone might have some other suggestions as to just what type of equipment and how they'd put said equipment together would be possibly the easiest `method' to do said `recruitment'. (Along with a bit of an explanation of just why all these nice ladies happened to be gathered together, too.) I guess that it was just one way of saying that there are other places where we might be able to find others who might enjoy this hobby, or be `sources', that might not be all that obvious.

Third, for some of those who wonder / worry about *their* SWMBOs I made the mention of just how SWMBO, and my `little monsters... err... angels', still never cease to amaze me as to what and how much they catch off my radios despite how much they might try to appear not to. (I my case it *may* be because of... A: I try and keep things such that the radios are *not* the `main' thing one hears around the place despite how much it might seem when someone `new' shows up. and... B: The fact that even though we are *surrounded* by Firestone now days we are still actually pretty much `out in the country' and the radios are one of our major sources about what is going on around us.)

The very last comment about my `Old Crumudgen License' is somewhat of a `poke' at myself because I seem to always seem to basically get the impression that is how some people `look' at me. At least, even with that, I can still find, no matter how `dark' it might seem, some humor to that given what could have been if things had gone differently some 44 years ago. (I'll admit that I've packed a whole bunch of `living' into those 44 years because I really have never known just how many years I'd have. As one of the lines in a pretty well known song goes, "What a strange trip it's been." and I try to keep on having many more years to enjoy.)
Ok im sorry....is anyone else confused? And is this really on topic?
 

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Right now I am getting sparatic digital or encrypted traffic on TG 9521 on the Sunset Tower but nothing in the clear for that TG. Normal traffic is on Longmonts conventional channels with no problems.
 

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Right now I am getting sparatic digital or encrypted traffic on TG 9521 on the Sunset Tower but nothing in the clear for that TG. Normal traffic is on Longmonts conventional channels with no problems.

How do you know that a channel is ENC? I don't recall pro96com identifying ENC (could be wrong though). If you monitor an ENC TG, do you just hear the raw datastream with the radio unable to decode it?

-Brian
 

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How do you know that a channel is ENC? I don't recall pro96com identifying ENC (could be wrong though). If you monitor an ENC TG, do you just hear the raw datastream with the radio unable to decode it?

-Brian

I was messing with Pro96Comm a few weeks ago and it does say when it's encrypted. I think it was on the channel grant log right after the TG number.
 

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Sunset Tower

Does Sunset Tower for Longmont have an 800 freq. for my pro-96/2096 that I could hit them on? Only freq. that I have for Sunset is 774.56875 <------is this right for my pro-106/197?
 

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774.20625 is the primary CC they have been using. It has limited coverage outside Longmont. I have not gotten any hits on the alternate control channels.

I am assuming it was encrypted because it was all "digital". Normally you can at least hear one side of the conversation if a radio is going digital and the person they are talking to is in the cleer and says that the unit was digital. I am told that this is what encrypted transmissions sound like. There were two radios talking to each other, and both were all jarbled up so I just assumed they were encrypted but maybe they were both tellling each other they were not readable! time will tell, I guess! I did not notice anything on pro96com when i was logging during those transmissions indicating encryption, though.
 

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Any inside info. when they are going to cut over to the new system. Not that I am in any hurry, but it seems that late last summer is when they starting putting the antennas all over Sunset water tank.
Mark
 

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Right now I am getting sparatic digital or encrypted traffic on TG 9521 on the Sunset Tower but nothing in the clear for that TG. Normal traffic is on Longmonts conventional channels with no problems.

I caught the same traffic Nathan. I got it from the Thorodin site and yes it was encrypted.
 

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Not yet. I have all the radio's labeled that I have seen on 9521. We will just have to wait and see.
 

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Assuming 4201 is Longmont engine I just heard them dispatched to a call on TG 1907 \
someone confirm please heard off sunset
 

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If it is a boulder county unit, 4200 is Jamestown Fire Dept unless they have changed it recently. Longmont Fire is 2100's. 2101-2106 are engines, 2164 is the batallion cheif, I think 2121-2123 are the ambulance units (2127 is used when an ambulance is called to the city for coverage) 2117 and 2116 are trucks, and i dont know what the heavy resuce or hazmat units are, since they changed around once AMR started doing the ambulance service for the city. But I didn't think anybody else besides Mountain View and Rocky Mountain Fire was on DTRS yet. Its keeping me very intrigued, though!
 

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1907 is Weld FD Dispatch and 4201 is Windsor-Severance FD Engine 1. Just because you hear something on the Sunset tower doesn't mean it has anything to do with Longmont. As far as we know, there are no restrictions on who can affiliate with the site, so anyone with a DTRS radio could show up there on any talkgroup.

-Brian
 
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