Looking for help identifying system

rkorchensky

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I have been monitoring a few frequencies in SW Ontario but can find no info whatsoever.

System identifies as CON+, 544-1, DCC1, and has channels from 1 to 16 plus 28. and neighbors 2 and 3

Frequencies found include 412.2625, 412.3875, 412.50625, and 412.9875 for this system.

Have searched RR Database, Canada Database, and FCC Database. Absolutely no references anywhere.

Anyone have any clues???

Thanks, Ralph VE3EUK
 

rkorchensky

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Bruce did just install a CON+ system but doubtful that it would be heard in SW Ontario.
Thanks Mike. Not trying to be sarcastic but Bruce is in SW Ontario. In fact, I am currently at Lurgan Beach just south of Kincardine and I can see Bruce over the water from here.
Actually, I did see some reference to a couple of these frequencies, but not all of them. I could find no reference to Sys ID: 544.

Hearing some audio but still unable to put frequencies in correct sort order.

Bottom line....thanks for your input and I will spend more time looking at Bruce CON+ to see if I can add anything.

CFC582 most likely
BC_Scan. Thank you for the input. I do believe you are on the right track. I did in fact use TAFL but my results were not quite as clear as yours....but yours seems to fit better.

I am going to insert all 28 sites and see if they fit.

Thanks again.

Ralph, VE3EUK
 

mikewazowski

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I’ve always considered Bruce to be part of the Peninsula ;)

Looks like you’ve indeed found the new Bruce system. I think it’s a bunch of sites but most of them would be inbuilding.
 

rkorchensky

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I’ve always considered Bruce to be part of the Peninsula ;)

Looks like you’ve indeed found the new Bruce system. I think it’s a bunch of sites but most of them would be inbuilding.
Thanks Mike. I was at my cottage south of Kincardine but now back in Kitchener. I believe with the help of others that I have sufficient info to put this system together.

Heading back in a day or 2 and I will forward what I have. Be aware that I am not 100% positive what I will send is correct but while running my "best guess" it all seemed to track correctly.......HOWEVER my normal "double your money back if it is not correct" warranty does not stand.

I left it running so it will have a couple or 3 days to burn in.

Nice to hear from you again.

Ralph VE3EUK
 

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I've been monitoring this system for quite a few months. It's Bruce powers system.


I've got it as Brice Power Con+ 544
3 sites

Bruce Power, Site 1 Wiarton

Con+, 544, 1, 1, 412.26250, 412.26250, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 2, 412.26250, 412.26250, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 3, 413.16250, 413.1625, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 4, 413.16250, 413.1625, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 5, 410.13750, 410.13750, 0 ; CC
Con+, 544, 1, 6, 410.13750, 410.13750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 7, 412.38750, 412.38750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 8, 412.38750, 412.38750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 9, 410.43750, 410.43750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 10, 410.43750, 410.43750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 11, 411.13750, 411.13750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 12, 411.13750, 411.13750, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 13, 410.81250, 410.81250, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 14, 410.81250, 410.81250, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 15, 412.11250, 412.11250, 0 ;
Con+, 544, 1, 16, 412.11250, 412.11250, 0 ;


Groups

8001
8002
8003
8004
8013
8014
8300
8305
8500
9001 (Possible Fire Tac 1)
9002 (Possible Fire Tac 2)
9010
9020
9021
9030

9001, 8300 being the most active groups with 8003,8001 after them

Bruce Power security services are in the 412's P25 with AES on their own frequency
 

gary123

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Nice post Muxlow.

For those attempting to identify systems and users notice the TG list found. How the TG fall into groups 8001-4 ,8013-4 etc 9001-9002 which is partially Identified as the same user.

This is typical on active systems and can be a huge help in identifying the general departments on a system. Most good system admins group the users in this exact manner.
Dept X = TG 0001 -0010, Dept Y = TG 0020 -0030. This means if you see active TG 0021, 0022, 0024, 0026, 0027 it is a safe bet that TG 0023 and TG 0025 will be the same dept. You may even get lucky and get the bonus TG 0021 = Ops1, 0022 = Ops 2 0024 = Ops 4. so TG 0023 = Ops 3.

Needless to say, there is no guarantee this is true but for your personal programming or system configuration it can be very useful.

When I build out an unknown system I will tag the unverified TG similar to this. TG 0023 = Ops 3 NV <-- NV = not verified. a second level of department verification is listen to the users and see if the same voice is heard on the various TGs.
 

rkorchensky

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Thanks Muxlow. I tried everything I could submitted the system and thought I had the system tracking OK but perhaps not.

Just FYI this is what I submitted:
1 410.1375 3 410.2125 5 410.4375 7 410.4625 9 410.8125 11 411.0375 13 411.1125 15 411.1375 17 412.2625 19 412.3875 21 413.1625
23 413.9875

Quite possible mine could contain errors but I am going to delete and use your numbers and see what differences show up.
Using my numbers all numbers from 1 to 23 show up as active with 21 and 17 showing as CC's.

I'll let you know. At least by getting it listed there is ah helluva more people looking at the system.


I copied your frequency list in YOUR order and it works much better than mine, THANKS

FYI my CC is showing up on 3 but that may change with time.

Also note I have more channels than you but may be they are for another site? Time will tell.

Ralph VE3EUK
 

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I have a laptop out that way running DSD so I can remote in and have a peek anytime. Just don't have audio so I can't listen to anything

All my info was from site 1 in Tiverton not sure where the other 2 sites are.

I'll have to check again and see what frequency the security guys are on. Was in the 412's P25 encrypted
 

rkorchensky

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I have been monitoring this system since I first started this post and can confirm CC's are 1, 3, 5, and 7 regularly.

15 as posted as a CC has not been seen since. I think this one may be in error.

Thanks again Muxlow for your kick start. And I have also set up 2 laptops in Lurgan Beach with ability to control from Kitchener.

Ralph VE3EUK
 
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